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Feb 15, 2017 22:13:32 GMT
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Another one of these info gathering type threads. So feel free to throw in all you know and opinions, warnings and any other views or real world experience you may have of these little vans. Photos below of the van in question. 51 reg. 1.4 petrol 87k miles. Sliding sunroof Two owners, first made all the corners round MOT to mid October. So Wheels....... Banded steels? Alloys? Easy lowering? Or lifting...... imagine an off-road Dayvan/BBQ van. Just stuff running through my mind. VW already commented this: I had a 1.6 petrol. Good on fuel, quite quick, handled well, abused savagely for 4 years amd always came back for more. Only ever got minimal maintenance, never even serviced it. Used it as a work van hack and put loads of miles on it. Hate the things but I cant actually think of a single bad thing to say about them apart from a little dull and a pain to do the clutch on. How the 1.4 compares I'm not sure. And Rich said these warnings: Watch for oil leaks over the alternator from the head gasket. New HG is the only cure but it's an engine you can remove the head from in half hour at the side of the road. Heater matrix's are a weak point and are a total dash out job to replace so bear that in mind also. And the rear beam bearings fail giving horrible noises and loads of negative camber. Clutch release bearings and guide tubes fail and ram the fork through the cover plate. You are forwarned long in advance by a grating screeching noise from the clutch. Other than that pretty hardy. Car in question. Photo shoppers............ have your way with it.
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Last Edit: Feb 18, 2017 16:50:08 GMT by grizz
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Feb 15, 2017 22:26:24 GMT
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Oooo, rag top. I had the 6 sunroof set up that leaked.
There ford pcd if I remember right. Would 13's clear the brakes? Rs4's, starmags or compomotive th would be my choice. Maybe some universal rounded wide arches.
Nothing ground breaking.
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sb
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Feb 15, 2017 22:31:30 GMT
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My aunt had one and it was absolutely gutless. They are the same block as a 106 though which means it will be easy to keep running. The berlingo honestly felt slower than my old 1.1 though. The O2 sensor shat itself, which happened to me and I think is quite a common issue with the TU. I remember weekly posts about it when people still cared about 106s.
Banded steels should be easy to find, there used to be lots floating about in 4x108.
I would imagine suspension is the same as all the others in the range. Springs and torsion bar?
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Feb 15, 2017 22:32:07 GMT
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Oooo, rag top. I had the 6 sunroof set up that leaked. There ford pcd if I remember right. Would 13's clear the brakes? Rs4's, starmags or compomotive th would be my choice. Maybe some universal rounded wide arches. Nothing ground breaking. I am certainly not looking for groundbreaking as I am on a tight leash, still no lodger. However, cool touches are in the game. I love the kind of thing like arches on Japanese stuff, to go with slightly wider wheels. It still has to be able to do a Council tip run.
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Feb 15, 2017 22:36:21 GMT
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Things carried in mine...
5 full size heras fence panels strapped to the roof.
5 full length kitchen worktops, touching the screen up front and hanging 3' out the back.
God knows how much rockery stone, rear was on the bump stops.
They are great for tip runs.
Maybe not low and wide then, and it wont carry off 13's without being low and wide.
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Feb 15, 2017 22:36:46 GMT
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My aunt had one and it was absolutely gutless. They are the same block as a 106 though which means it will be easy to keep running. The berlingo honestly felt slower than my old 1.1 though. The O2 sensor shat itself, which happened to me and I think is quite a common issue with the TU. I remember weekly posts about it when people still cared about 106s. Banded steels should be easy to find, there used to be lots floating about in 4x108. I would imagine suspension is the same as all the others in the range. Springs and torsion bar? Gutless really does not bother me, I would tend to just keep left and use the gears more. For long distance like holidays I would use the Ford Focus, it's plenty fine. Mechanical gremlins aside, it seems to be just a simple little work horse. I saw a bright yellow one come out of Medway City Estate recently on lovely wheels and lowered a bit, looking just right. I think banded steels would make nice arches an option too.
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sb
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Feb 15, 2017 22:37:55 GMT
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Oh and if they still have the 8v flange I have a supersprint 421 manifold and supersprint backbox if you want to pretend citroen made a group b van...
If they're 16v you should be able to find some cheapish ITBs or even better, turbo conversion. Ive seen the 1.6 make 350bhp and I know of one claiming more than that. Now that wouldnt be gutless!
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sb
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Feb 15, 2017 22:41:06 GMT
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Oooo, rag top. I had the 6 sunroof set up that leaked. There ford pcd if I remember right. Would 13's clear the brakes? Rs4's, starmags or compomotive th would be my choice. Maybe some universal rounded wide arches. Nothing ground breaking. Although I cant comment with any confidence in this, everything else in the range that uses the TU usually is 13" steels or 14" alloys as standard.
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Feb 15, 2017 22:41:22 GMT
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Yeah, when empty my 16v 1.6 was great fun round the peak districts twisties.
If banded steels, you cant go wrong with cream on a dark blue car.
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Feb 15, 2017 22:42:24 GMT
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Oooo, rag top. I had the 6 sunroof set up that leaked. There ford pcd if I remember right. Would 13's clear the brakes? Rs4's, starmags or compomotive th would be my choice. Maybe some universal rounded wide arches. Nothing ground breaking. Although I cant comment with any confidence in this, everything else in the range that uses the TU usually is 13" steels or 14" alloys as standard. RS 4 spokes then!
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Feb 15, 2017 22:48:19 GMT
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Half the wheels you guys describe on here I have never seen, or at least would not recognise next to a wheel of Gouda cheese.
Steels seem right for this car though.
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Feb 15, 2017 22:50:20 GMT
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Ok, this is a bit out there. I have a thing at the moment for copying vintage tamiya styling onto unassociated vehicles. I considered making my bedford cf a grasshopper 'replica'. This is dark blue, so gold 15" steels and some printed vinyl decals to replicate the tamiya fox? No? Just me?
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Feb 15, 2017 22:53:05 GMT
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Half the wheels you guys describe on here I have never seen, or at least would not recognise next to a wheel of Gouda cheese. Steels seem right for this car though. here are some nice wide rs 4 spokes. Would look great on these if it sat right.
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Feb 15, 2017 23:02:38 GMT
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I'd go along with the banded steels route, but as the car is a ragtop with a summery vibe, why not go a bit Tiki? Red stripe tyres, a few pin stripes, smattering of oddments? It could even be a nice micro-camper, alongside the mighty Grizz-Pod.
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Feb 15, 2017 23:16:11 GMT
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I'd go along with the banded steels route, but as the car is a ragtop with a summery vibe, why not go a bit Tiki? Red stripe tyres, a few pin stripes, smattering of oddments? It could even be a nice micro-camper, alongside the mighty Grizz-Pod. Good thinking no1 I like the Tiki mobile idea. The whole thing has to be "not so serious" Those RS four spokes are rather nice too. But take you in a different direction which I like too.
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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mikeymk
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We think modern cars are hopeless, but it's always been possible to make cars look amazing. It's just more difficult when there's no established ideas for any given model yet. Most modified cars are a bit of a failure to my eye. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but when it's all just the same philosophies applied to another car it rarely works. What works is working with the car instead of against it. 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s.. every car i've seen that really nailed it was a complete package, a concept in it's own right, like the car was originally styled to carry off that look. The Berlingo needs to have it's concept penned. It's actually got subtle muscular blister arches, is generally very rounded, but is conservatively tough-looking. Look at the wheels on this old F1 car - small but wide, very deep dish, with high profile tyres. This look could help steer the Berlingo toward a concept that'll work.. I have the same problem. I'm going modern. I loved my modified '85 Polo, it was a proper little Scalextrix car in a sporty nostalgic frock. But 13 broken bones later, and i've been burned. I never imagined wanting an N-Cap trophy winner but with a young child it is time. I have no idea what i want, but i've been given a Suzuki Liana to get me mobile for now. I'm going to run it for a year. Wtf am i supposed to do with a fkn Suzuki Liana..?! I'm currently looking at ideas. Driving into Halfords isn't the answer for me but every car has potential.
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Dr.AK
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I'm not entirely sure if it was a Berlingo, but a few years back there was one in Belgium, dropped with airride on banded steels and it was painted flat olive drab with army stars and symbols all over. Saw it at a few meets.
Might have pics somewhere, I'll have a look later.
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misteralz
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They're not common on the island, but over here you get 4x4-alike Berlingos or whatever the Peugeot equivalent is. Plastic arch extensions, higher ride height, that sort of thing. I reckon that sort of look would work well against that doom blue (TM & c Andy Sweeney off VZi) paint, like a miniature military vehicle. Some 106 Rallye steels with appropriate tyres, mesh over the lights, tyre pressures stencilled above each wheel, that sort of thing. It's already utilitarian. Use that!
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these run 266mm discs as a minimum so 14" wheels upwards required.
there are 16"steels from other psa vehicles that fit nicely.
ford stuff is wrong offset and centre bore too small.
they have long suspension travel hence the good ride whilst still handling well.
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