This Car Is Related To The One Above because...

[surprisingskoda]

Jan 27, 2021 6:30:37 GMT mht said:

I thought I'd give this thread a bit of CPR.

I still think this thread had so much to give - and still does, if people keep coming back to put the effort in

So you went via the designer, Bertone, from the Autobianchi to the Lamborghini.
George went the same route to the (what I had to look up) Porsche Karisma concept of 1994.

Um, I'm not sure if the next posts were just comments or meant to be links, sorry. Yeah it does look a bit like the RX8 at the front. And I guess the next comment was building on that referencing the Wankel engine as obviously the Karisma didn't have that.
So I should link on from the NSU Spider?


Pictures always desired in this thread.



Now I made a guideline way way back that if the "related to" links got muddied or broken, then it was up to someone to rectify that by pulling the tangents back together. I will say that in the very start of that Wiki link above about the NSU, it says it was designed by Bertone! so we're on track, thankfully. Both cars are also rear engined as well.
I'd have liked to spur off from the Karisma as I've never seen it before, and wanting to learn I should go read about that and make a link from some interesting tidbit of info, but I'm diving headlong into NSU to find something we hopefully haven't covered before yet.

I did find something. The NSU designer at the time, he who did much of the work on the Prinz and Spider, was Claus Luthe. Recognise the name? After starting at Deutsche-Fiat, then working for NSU progressing through AUdI then VW as takeovers happened, he went and worked at BMW for many years. He was instrumental in some of the best models, the E28, the E30, the E31... and penned the BMW E32 7 series.



So then, who is going to find the next link and tell us something we didn't know before about how your chosen car "relates to the one above"... the E32.

[The Rascal King]

The E32 7 series was available with a V12, BMW's first since WWII. The V12 has a long history in ultra-luxury cars because of it's inherent balance, going all the way back to the Packard twin-six in 1915. They were the absolute top of the market at the time, partly because Packard would build basically whatever you wanted them to. This 1916 twin-six was spec'ed by the Tsar of Russia:

[rodharris83]

Engines bolted otgether in Russia?

[biturbo228]

It's not quite car related, but you can't mention home-built engines without talking about Allen Millyard. The man welds together bike engines! Not just the crank cases and jugs, but he also modifies the cranks to make them modular and chops up and welds his camshafts! Man's a madman.



To keep it somewhat car related, the man's put a Viper V10 in a motorbike as well. In case the above wasn't enough...

[hoopsontoast]

On the modular front, the Connaught Type D featured a modular 2-Litre V10

And now working on an 'X20' engine...

www.hotcars.com/this-x-20-is-the-craziest-engine-ever-built/

[rblote]

Connaught Engineering, often referred to simply as Connaught, was a Formula One, Formula Two and sports car constructor.
However they built some really good looking road going sports cars.

The Connaughts was made by Continental Cars of Send, Surrey, and their first sports cars used the chassis, engine and transmission of the Lea-Francis 14hp Sports.

Engine: Lea-Francis 1767cc, 107bhp up to 122 bhp
Special camshafts and pistons, 8.2:1 compression and a four-branch exhaust resulted in a brisk performance. The bodywork (designed by Rodney Clarke) had the whole front hinged for easy access to the engine. The first car was completed in October 1948, and two more the following spring. These three, designated L2s, had the competition specification, which meant the dry sump version of the Lea-Francis engine fitted with four Amal carburettors. They had numerous successes in racing.

[rodharris83]

Lea-Francis also made the 30/230 prototype:

The Lea-Francis 30/230 was first shown to the public at the 1998 Motor Show.

The Lea-Francis 30/230 was designed by Professor Jim Randle, of Jaguar XJ220 fame. The 30/230 moved from prototype to production tooling with the help of Coventry-based 3Dscanners, who reverse-engineered the fibreglass concept body to provide surface data for the production panels and associated tooling. This involved scanning the prototype with a ModelMaker non-contact laser scanner that maps millions of points along the prototype body. The points are then converted into engineering surfaces using SDRC-Imageware Surfacer.

The 30/230 has a patented, self operating, active suspension system, that senses what the car is doing and reacts by changing the load transfer to maximise the car’s handling and tractive performance. It does, in effect, what active race car systems did with electronic control, before they were banned a few years ago. The original designs were completed in AutoCAD, but as the design progressed they were transferred to 3D SDRC Artisan to assist packaging, dynamics,
evaluation and FE analysis.

The SDRC Artisan Design and Sheet Metal software was used to design the chassis. All the chassis components are made from sheet aluminium, cut by laser and folded under NC control, before being riveted, with the result that there are no assembly jigs.

The 30/230 structure has achieved outstanding crash test results because of the patented ‘crush initiation’ system incorporated in the design. The aluminium bodied car is also equipped with a 235BHP, 3.0 litre, V6 Vauxhall engine.

Unfortunately the car has not gone into production due to a lack of finance in spite of many promising possibilities over the last few years and a good press for the prototype. Sporadic talks did continue until recently, but these have now ceased.

[hoopsontoast]

The Lea-Francis 30/230 was designed by Jim Randle, who worked for Jaguar, so have a lovely XJ220

www.lfoc.org/index.php/30-320
www.jaguarheritage.com/jaguar-history/jaguar-people/jim-randle/


medium.com/motorious/wholl-give-this-splendid-jaguar-xj220-a-new-home-c027256aea9

[vulgalour]

Which uses the rear lights from the Rover 200/400 series.

[ajprice]

The R8 Rover 200/400 had the same Honda 1.6 engine (D16A8)  asthe mk2 Honda CRX.

[rodharris83]

The CRX is a Kammback (also known as "Kamm tail" or "K-tail"), as is the (Beautiful) Ford GT40:

[rblote]

I understand that the GT40 was designed by Ron Bradshaw.

Ron Bradshaw also designed this beauty



This is a Unipower GT

It all started off quite well. A car development engineer and onetime team manager for racing car manufacturer Elva, called Ernie Unger, had a dream of combining the qualities of Abarth racing cars, which he greatly admired, with the excellent road holding and agility of the best British sports cars of the day. He met up with a freelance car designer called Valerian Dare-Bryan who had worked with some of the greats of the day such as Colin Chapman the boss of Lotus, and Frank Costin, the highly experienced expert in streamlining. Dare-Bryan was running a racing team for racing driver Roy Pierpoint. Together they dream of producing their own ultra sports car.

Ron Bradshaw, a member of Ford's design team, drew up plans for the car and the prototype was built in Pierpoint's facility, with an aluminium body supplied by coach-builders Robert Peel and Company.

With so many top people working together on this project how could it go wrong? Easy. They had the ideas but not the finance. By the time the prototype was made they had run out of money.

[rodharris83]

The Unipower GT used Headlamp assemblies from the Jensen C-V8:

[The Rascal King]

Eric Neale, who designed the CV-8, got his start at Singer, where he is credited with the Singer Nine:

[rodharris83]

Another "Nine", the 1931 Riley Nine Brooklands Roadster:

The Ards Tourist Trophy race was a 30-lap event on a 13.7-mile course—just shy of 411 miles in distance. The race was the ultimate test of both endurance and speed. British driving-ace Cyril Whitford piloting this Riley Nine Brooklands Roadster placed first overall after 4 hours and 52 minutes recording an average race speed of 74.2 miles per hour. Just three years earlier, Rudy Caracciola won first overall at Ulster and set a track record with an average speed of 72.8 miles per hour in a Mercedes-Benz SSK powered by a mammoth 7.1-liter 6-cylinder supercharged engine. The motorsports world was absolutely astounded by the fact that the normally aspirated Riley Nine Brooklands Roadster with its small-displacement 1087cc engine convincingly eclipsed the track record of a Mercedes Benz SSK that had six-and-a-half times the engine size and exponentially more supercharged horsepower.

[merlind100]

Slightly tenuous after the Riley Brooklands here's my old Brooklands Green Dolly Sprint parked on the banking at Brooklands.