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Sept 19, 2020 19:49:30 GMT
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New tool procured. Lunch eaten. Going to try finish up this afternoon. Done the front left, front to back, working on the hard lines on the rear axle. Phil
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Sept 19, 2020 19:51:10 GMT
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Oh and yes, I like to use the long thread fittings. Reason is when they're rusted on many years from now, and the nut part rounds off, there's more to grip with the Stilsens.
Phil
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Last Edit: Sept 19, 2020 19:51:39 GMT by PhilA
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Sept 20, 2020 2:11:14 GMT
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Spent today doing brakes. Rear left wheel is rebuilt, needs adjusting. New hard lines and rubber hoses throughout. Phil
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Sept 20, 2020 6:25:03 GMT
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I also really should invest in a proper spring tool. Grabbing brake shoe springs with my channel-loks and fighting with the springs is less than ideal.
Wind is picking up here, getting the back end of the storm that's in the gulf right now (beta). Tomorrow the plan is to run a new hard line from the tee to the passenger side rear wheel, replace all the hardware and grease everything up, including freeing off the adjusters, in preparation for new hydraulics.
I might adjust the other brakes up if I have time, too. I need to get a cable grommet while I remember, also.
List is getting shorter.
Phil
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jamesd1972
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1951 Pontiac Chieftainjamesd1972
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Sept 20, 2020 6:49:31 GMT
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Stupid springs are the reason I’m not keen on sorting out drums. Always seam to work out the knack on the last wheel. Be interesting to see what spring tool you find, might be one for the tool box. Is the Pontiac single leading shoe front and back ? Did they use twin leading shoe set ups much over there ? At least you have many years of simple adjustment with all the nice new bits in place, do it right do it once for an easy life!
Stay safe in the wind, thanks for the updates James
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Sept 20, 2020 7:19:52 GMT
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Front and back geometry is the same. Front has a different bore size cylinder and larger shoes; rear has the handbrake mechanism included in it too.
Phil
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Sept 20, 2020 20:26:53 GMT
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Brake cylinder shipped so I'm stopping work until that arrives.
Phil
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Sept 21, 2020 0:55:07 GMT
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To say I actually did something today, I cleaned a few things. One grubby sombrero. I attacked the red with some polish, because that was straight out of the can. They're all hazy but that's better than they were. Doesn't help I put the lug nuts on them when I take the wheels off... Phil
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Sept 21, 2020 18:44:06 GMT
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Look at what was in my mailbox today. Genuinely surprised, delivery schedule was Wednesday. I guess FedEx decided to make up for the 1.5 week delivery of the last box of parts. This was mailed Friday afternoon.
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Sept 21, 2020 23:54:05 GMT
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That there is what happens if you ignore a leaking brake for years. The friction material goes all biodegradable. Thankfully I had all new bits to go in. Bias adjuster was seized solid on this side too, and took a moderate amount of persuasion to come free. Back down on the ground for tonight. Tomorrow, need to make a new hard line for that side, adjust the shoes up and bleed the brakes. Phil
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jamesd1972
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Sept 22, 2020 6:52:22 GMT
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Phil was the car being used much before you bought it ? That brake can't have been doing much for years. James
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glenanderson
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Sept 22, 2020 8:51:10 GMT
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No wonder they didn’t work too well. 🤣
I imagine that you’re going to notice a significant improvement in performance.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Sept 22, 2020 11:28:21 GMT
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Neither rear service brake was doing anything. Front left was working on one shoe. Front right was working correctly but improperly adjusted.
So, yeah. Anything better than what I had.
Phil
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Sept 22, 2020 23:39:32 GMT
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The battery has found a new home in the boot. Secured the tray to the floor, battery held in with a locking strap. That has tidied up the engine bay nicely. Finished the brake hard line, adjusted the rear shoes, handbrake and discovered some mouth breather had not done the axle up properly. The left hand side wasn't sitting on the locating dowel and was about an inch too far back. The bolts were secured with 3 nuts and no lockwashers. Remedied all that, and the axle sitting in the correct location now doesn't have the new flexi brake pipe taut any more. Back down on wheels tonight. Booked tomorrow off too. Going to continue with the car and hopefully get the brakes bled. Phil
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Sept 23, 2020 7:18:17 GMT
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what size drum diameter and width are they phil ?
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glenanderson
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Sept 23, 2020 8:32:16 GMT
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I presume it was the person who fitted the lowering blocks that put it together wrong.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Sept 23, 2020 12:09:44 GMT
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I presume it was the person who fitted the lowering blocks that put it together wrong. Possibly, or someone who came along after them. This car appears to have had many hands on it over time, there's witness marks in the rear arches from big fat tires, too. Phil
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Sept 23, 2020 14:49:39 GMT
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I'm suprised you did not feel the car trying to pull hard to the right with the axle fitted on the pi55.
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Sept 23, 2020 19:53:40 GMT
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I'll see if it feels any different taking it for a drive. It wasn't particularly bad but I've only had it up to about 20.
Phil
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