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Oct 16, 2020 15:37:15 GMT
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I love the comments from people about these cars, often from people who haven't owned or driven them and just repeat the internet tales of doom. I have one, '04 3.2S manual, and it is a superb drive, the IMS is much simpler on these than a 996 as the engine and gearbox are the other way round and the hardest part of gearbox removal is getting the exhaust off if the header to cat pipe bolts are corroded (which they will be if original). When I got mine I bought the bearing kit from the states and made the necessary tools to remove and reset but it turned out mine had the late type uprated bearing in so didn't need changing. Changed the clutch and DMF at cost of £495 for Sachs/Luk parts who are OE suppliers. Less than 5% of cars worldwide suffered the IMS issue and usually the ones that are low mileage for age and driven by Miss Daisy. So with careful research of a cars history you'll find many will have had the IMS changed when the car was in the hands of someone who was happy to pay Porsche running costs. They can be maintained at sensible cost if you look for OE spec parts from the likes of Meyle, Febi etc. Yes they do have to be looked after but any car 14+ years old will. As for an MX5 I've driven both and they are worlds apart and Boxster's don't rot. Have a picture as plainly it's imminently about to grenade so while its still running ......
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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andyborris
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Oct 17, 2020 17:44:40 GMT
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Well, it doesn't matter to me if they get any cheaper, I've just thrown all the money I'll ever have into a huge moneypit!
So no cheap Boxster for me.
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madmog
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Can they get any cheaper?madmog
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Oct 20, 2020 20:34:27 GMT
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I've posted this link before, it's something I came close to pulling the trigger on on a 996 but you can get a kit to fit an LS engine in a 911 or Boxster and solve the IMS problem once and for all renegadehybrids.com/Wouldn't be a cheap project but it's be an awesome car at the end. £2-3K boxster 3.2s £6K new LS? engine (quick google, you might find cheaper) Your own ingenuity of £5K conversion kit Sale of old Porsche engine - credit something
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As someone that is staring down the barrel of a £4k repair bill on his 996 (most of the components that need doing are not massively far off what is on a Boxster) I'd be wary of thinking a Porsche that may need a little work is a cheap proposition. (As it happens mine is actually in good condition but at the age/mileage where a bunch of the components are tired and need replacing (power steering, suspension, bushes, control arms, clutch etc. etc.)).
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madmog
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Can they get any cheaper?madmog
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Oct 21, 2020 14:07:00 GMT
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As someone that is staring down the barrel of a £4k repair bill on his 996 (most of the components that need doing are not massively far off what is on a Boxster) I'd be wary of thinking a Porsche that may need a little work is a cheap proposition. (As it happens mine is actually in good condition but at the age/mileage where a bunch of the components are tired and need replacing (power steering, suspension, bushes, control arms, clutch etc. etc.)). There's a truism that Porsche 911s always cost minimum £20K. Either you buy for £20K or you buy for £10K and find £10K of work that needs doing. With 996's, (I guess 986 Boxsters too) there's a point where the 'planets' of wear-and-tear align at 96,000 miles. Ie lots of expensive things will be due on the 96,000 mile service. So if the car is around that mileage and that service isn't done, it should be cheap to buy but expect big bills. Of course if you can do things yourself it's not so bad.
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Battenberg
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Oct 21, 2020 15:20:09 GMT
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I run a 2001 996 which I have had for around 12 months and in that time have spent close on what HotWire is looking at investing, in my experience parts prices and labour add to the overall increase in cost, as an example the rocker gasket on my Alpina D3 with labour came in at around £150 with a few extras done. I noticed several months ago the 996 was dropping oil from the rocker gasket, to rectify is exhaust off (rusted studs plus replacement gaskets), new plug tubes and three plug coils as they were cracked and although fine preventative replacement as a precaution to failure, access is a PITA so the job takes longer. While their replace n/s engine mount that at 20 years old is shagged, seized solid captive nut which snaps so specialist ‘thread doctor’ required......... you can see how a simple job escalates as with all older vehicles parts need replacing....... total cost close to £700.
If you spanner yourself and have the time/space costs can be kept down, but in my experience do not scrimp on the quality of replacement parts if you want longevity! I would rather have a higher mileage Porsche that has been used rather than a low mile summer car, as like most things they need to be used and abused 😀
Remember. You are effectively buying a super car that has pedigree and reliability from years of engineering excellence, you cannot run one on lemonade money unfortunately. I’m currently trying to source the earliest 2.5 Boxster I can which will be tired and require lots of TLC, but believe me nothing comes close to experiencing the howl of a flat six from behind as Ferdinand intended.
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ChasR
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Can they get any cheaper?ChasR
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Oct 21, 2020 21:25:12 GMT
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As someone that is staring down the barrel of a £4k repair bill on his 996 (most of the components that need doing are not massively far off what is on a Boxster) I'd be wary of thinking a Porsche that may need a little work is a cheap proposition. (As it happens mine is actually in good condition but at the age/mileage where a bunch of the components are tired and need replacing (power steering, suspension, bushes, control arms, clutch etc. etc.)). It can go that way indeed. However, no car really is cheap, but it's taken years for me to realise that. But yes, a cheap Porker is never that. Mileage is not an indication. The condition is I learned that with my 944s. -S2 I paid £1.8k for on 120k. I then threw another £3.7k at an engine, cooling system clutch, tyres and things you do when you change an engine. Lower arm and a heater matrix. Bar the engine swap I did all of the work myself. I sold it a year later for £3.5k as I had to get rid due to a very troublesome work car my dad bought -Turbo. If there's one car I should have kept, this is the one. It was a bargain @ £3.5k even on 170k ; it was twice specialist owned (ex-director of ProMax Motorsport before EMC Motorsport got it, which is how I got it). It had every bush changed, and it had a lovely upgraded spec. Oh, and no rust thanks to new wings and sills. It went for £6.5k, after I put another £1.5k in. Yes I got lucky. I didn't want to sell it even if it was worth more than what I paid for it. I sold it as my Stag chewed cash and time more than I wanted. As a friend said, back then I didn't like to lose. Funny really, as I kind of lost anyway selling that. Those who have read my M3 thread will know I've spent a small fortune on that, and that was a good car from the off. That said, can you put a price on road trips, experiences, trackdays, new friends, and 30,000 miles put on over that time?
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Last Edit: Oct 21, 2020 21:28:09 GMT by ChasR
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