Garage drawings

[escysean]

Hi,

It is my 1st post so I would appreciate if anyone know or recommend free drawings of triple car timber garage as my local Leeds council said I require Householder Planning application to submit due to fact that the proposed site is at front side of house where I have large car parking area at.

My aim to have 24’ wide with 20’ depth garage for three classic cars (mk1 Escort more door, phase 1 Renault 5 GTTurbo and Renault 5 GTX cabriolet)

Thanks in advance

Seán

[brachunky]

Welcome along Sean. I have been through this process as will have many on RR! I don't imagine you could get free drawings as any plans that need submitting would need to be site specific and to scale. It would be worth getting proper plans drawn which would most likely go down better with your planning dept. Have you had a good look at the Planning Portal website which contains tons of up to date info? There are also rules limiting how close to the boundary you can build if built of flammable materials etc etc.
The matter of having a garage in front of the main house is generally against the rules although there are many examples out there to the contrary so push hard.In my case the single garage I had built is also in the front garden and sounds like a similar position to yours. The law at the time said no development in front of the original dwelling and despite it being in front of an extension we had done, this extension was not "the original building". I got it passed eventually!

Read read and read up!

[escysean]

Apr 30, 2020 11:59:47 GMT brachunky said:

Welcome along Sean. I have been through this process as will have many on RR! I don't imagine you could get free drawings as any plans that need submitting would need to be site specific and to scale. It would be worth getting proper plans drawn which would most likely go down better with your planning dept. Have you had a good look at the Planning Portal website which contains tons of up to date info? There are also rules limiting how close to the boundary you can build if built of flammable materials etc etc.
The matter of having a garage in front of the main house is generally against the rules although there are many examples out there to the contrary so push hard.In my case the single garage I had built is also in the front garden and sounds like a similar position to yours. The law at the time said no development in front of the original dwelling and despite it being in front of an extension we had done, this extension was not "the original building". I got it passed eventually!

Read read and read up!

Thanks for advice.

Our stone brick semi-detached house build around 1920 and is at corner plot with side street, ours is very large garden on front/side and decent size garden at rear. I have converted front side area to car parking area up to 6/7 cars. We are in process to build new extensions to the side of house so rule out garage put in there and garden for our school-age kids & BBQ lol

I will ask one of companies to set up drawings and submit with application form, wish us luck 👍

Seán

[paul99]

Contact any local suppliers that do sheds/garages of a similar size to what you have in mind? When my dad did it (albeit 15 years ago and a different authority) A wooden shed - even his 18'x36' - was classed as temporary so no pp needed.

[LowStandards]

I drew my own to the scale they requested, using a pen and a ruler

I got permission just fine

[escysean]

Apr 30, 2020 13:04:16 GMT LowStandards said:

I drew my own to the scale they requested, using a pen and a ruler

I got permission just fine

Very impressive drawings, mine’s terrible.....😊👎

[escysean]

Apr 30, 2020 13:02:31 GMT paul99 said:

Contact any local suppliers that do sheds/garages of a similar size to what you have in mind? When my dad did it (albeit 15 years ago and a different authority) A wooden shed - even his 18'x36' - was classed as temporary so no pp needed.

I’ll try that useful tip and contact local sheds/garages place

[dodgerover]

Are you having an oak frame kit building? The manufacturers usually provide plans that you can submit.

[jonsey]

When I had a new garage built about 5 years ago, I went to see the planning officer before I did anything. Getting him/her on side is a great asset and can save wasted time and money. I just did a sketch of what i wanted and where I wanted to put it, he added his input as to where the building would go (it’s inside the green belt), and I went away quite pleased that he was on my side. He even told me how to label the building so it sounded more like an agricultural building rather than a garage.

I paid £250 for a guy to draw plans, fill in the application and send it off. Five weeks later I had full planning.

[escysean]

Apr 30, 2020 14:03:02 GMT jonsey said:

When I had a new garage built about 5 years ago, I went to see the planning officer before I did anything. Getting him/her on side is a great asset and can save wasted time and money. I just did a sketch of what i wanted and where I wanted to put it, he added his input as to where the building would go (it’s inside the green belt), and I went away quite pleased that he was on my side. He even told me how to label the building so it sounded more like an agricultural building rather than a garage.

I paid £250 for a guy to draw plans, fill in the application and send it off. Five weeks later I had full planning.

Would be nice to have someone like planning officer on my side but with lockdown, no can do but reliance on emailing so hopefully I can get on well with Claire, who is dealing with my case.

[escysean]

Apr 30, 2020 13:41:42 GMT dodgerover said:

Are you having an oak frame kit building? The manufacturers usually provide plans that you can submit.

It is normal cheap budget garage, similar to this link from eBay 😬

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323794492261

[dodgerover]

Apr 30, 2020 16:29:24 GMT escysean said:

Apr 30, 2020 13:41:42 GMT dodgerover said:

Are you having an oak frame kit building? The manufacturers usually provide plans that you can submit.

It is normal cheap budget garage, similar to this link from eBay 😬

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323794492261

Message the ones you intend buying from and ask if they have a suitable set of plans that you can use to apply for planning, offer to buy them if they have, once you have those it will be simple to show on a block plan where you intend to put it on your land.
The planning portal is pretty helpful and shows examples of what you need to submit.
I've just done 2 planning applications at my house, one of which has now passed and the other is pending, done all the drawings myself.
They aren't looking for DaVinci masterpieces just simple drawings to a recognised scale to help them understand what is going on and what you are intending to do. Expect a site visit, planning officers aren't (usually) nasty people trying to make your life hard and just want to understand the impact of what you suggest on the area. As it is a frontal development you may be asked for Street scene drawings, Google Streetview is your friend, print off pictures of any similar developments in the surrounding area to strengthen your case.
Do NOT curse word off the planning (or building control) officer, note that if you get turned down appealing is an option and unlikely to upset anybody, the officer needs to be able to justify their decision, the rules an individual council apply can and are interpreted differently at appeal and it doesn't cost you anything except time if you do it yourself.

[homersimpson]

As mentioned above I would run the principle past the planning officer, if you can take some photos and then draw on them what it will look like and send over to the planners they should be able to give you a very quick assesment of whether its likely to be approved or rejected.

We were looking to buy a house that we wanted to extend and I did this and the planning officer advised that we wouldn't get permisson for what we wanted to build unless we stepped the extension back which wouldn't have suited what we wanted. Saved us a lot of money in buying a house we would never of been happy with.

Our local planning officer was so helpful, I think they are generally helpful because you had the courtesty to ask for their opinion.

[deanh]

www.leeds.gov.uk/planning/planning-permission/pre-application-enquiry-service

That's what you need to do in the first instance.

If they give you positive feedback I can help with drawings. Based in Huddersfield so not far away.

[escysean]

May 2, 2020 13:43:34 GMT deanh said:

www.leeds.gov.uk/planning/planning-permission/pre-application-enquiry-service

That's what you need to do in the first instance.

If they give you positive feedback I can help with drawings. Based in Huddersfield so not far away.

Hi deanh,

Great, many thanks for the link, I’ll try that 1st and if positive then I will get in touch as I am not far from you (Leeds) 👍

Seán

[escysean]

Hi deanh,

Sent you PM’d 👍

Seán

[escysean]

Anyone got contact details to get hold of one of RR’s members, deanh as he offer to help out with garage’s planning via private messages from this site but as he is not replying for a while so I assumed he is not checking out RR posts often?

Thanks in advance

Seán

[elfman]

My garage is 23 x 24.5 ft and I have 2 cars in it....you could fit 3 but would have very little room to work around them.

For 3 cars I would go for 30ft wide... Ive drawn out a good few garages on CAD but not sure of the regs these days and they can alter from area to area...

[escysean]

May 15, 2020 9:15:31 GMT elfman said:

My garage is 23 x 24.5 ft and I have 2 cars in it....you could fit 3 but would have very little room to work around them.

For 3 cars I would go for 30ft wide... Ive drawn out a good few garages on CAD but not sure of the regs these days and they can alter from area to area...

I can stretch to 28ft maximum wide by 20ft long garage with up to three cars park at driveway outside with side street access to gate but I am concern about too near to boundary in the front side of house on the road, see pic below:

[elfman]

Probably best to go as wide as you can without causing problems. 28ft should be ok.