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Jun 16, 2020 14:35:38 GMT
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No, if neither of the two scenarios in my previous post apply I'm afraid not. Edit: are you using a screw cap, or a "universal" one? If the latter, bin it, and use a proper screw cap. It’s the screw cap which came with the kit, I have tried a new seal, and an alternative cap, as well as modifying an original cap from another master cylinder reservoir and it still won’t seal if adequate pressure to bleed the brakes is put through the system I’m of the opinion that the eazybleed is the faulty component here, hence the request for information on alternative pressure bleeders
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MiataMark
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Jun 16, 2020 14:37:36 GMT
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I wasted 80 odd quid on a mityvac thinking it would be the dogs danglies, what an utter piece of curse word that was. I just use my oil extractor now instead for bleeding if gravity some pipe and open nipple doesnt work. I was about to ask if you could use an oil extractor, I need to get one to change th eoil and it woudl eb great if you could use it for bleeding the brakes. I'm assuming you can use something like this one;
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Jun 16, 2020 14:39:51 GMT
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I’ve been wondering if I could use one of mk3 daughters medical syringes and reverse bleed the system from the calipers, pushing fluid back into the master Vaguely remember reading something about it years ago
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melle
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Jun 16, 2020 15:56:51 GMT
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That's how I do the clutch on Saab 900s, should work for brakes too.
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Jun 16, 2020 15:59:41 GMT
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I wasted 80 odd quid on a mityvac thinking it would be the dogs danglies, what an utter piece of curse word that was. I just use my oil extractor now instead for bleeding if gravity some pipe and open nipple doesnt work. I was about to ask if you could use an oil extractor, I need to get one to change th eoil and it woudl eb great if you could use it for bleeding the brakes. I'm assuming you can use something like this one; This one: www.agri-supply.co.uk/pneumatic-manual-oil-extractor-18l/Half the price of identical Sealey one but any would do as long as it takes oil and chems with viton seals etc. OP was on about pressure bleeders that force it in from the top, but i always thought that was asking for a big mess in the engine bay so prefer the suck method myself.
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Phil H
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Jun 16, 2020 16:13:41 GMT
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I won't mention how vehicle manufacturers do it then..for fear of being shouted at but it's not pressure...
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MiataMark
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Jun 16, 2020 17:21:20 GMT
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This one: www.agri-supply.co.uk/pneumatic-manual-oil-extractor-18l/Half the price of identical Sealey one but any would do as long as it takes oil and chems with viton seals etc. OP was on about pressure bleeders that force it in from the top, but i always thought that was asking for a big mess in the engine bay so prefer the suck method myself. I've had limited success using a Gunson's system and SWMBO got fed up of being used as a pedal pusher last time I worked on the brakes. So looking for a better solution and something that can be used for multiple purposes has to be good. Sucking the fluid through seems a more logical approach and safer. The one you listed is actually twice the price of the Sealy unit.
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Jun 16, 2020 17:31:56 GMT
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I won't mention how vehicle manufacturers do it then..for fear of being shouted at but it's not pressure... Welcome to the party Phil, feel free.....😀
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Jun 16, 2020 18:29:56 GMT
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I won't mention how vehicle manufacturers do it then..for fear of being shouted at but it's not pressure... Pixies ? Voodoo ?
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Jun 16, 2020 19:14:06 GMT
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I found that the Eezibleed screw cap is too deep for the reservoir thread on my Austin so it screws up tight before the seal is fully compressed so now I use two seals, still helps to have a final bleed the old fashioned two person way.
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Jun 16, 2020 19:19:19 GMT
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I’ve been wondering if I could use one of mk3 daughters medical syringes and reverse bleed the system from the calipers, pushing fluid back into the master Vaguely remember reading something about it years ago As long as there is no crud in the system.
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Jun 16, 2020 20:28:48 GMT
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I won't mention how vehicle manufacturers do it then..for fear of being shouted at but it's not pressure... Pixies ? Voodoo ? Vacuum - and not through the bleed nipples. Generate a vacuum in the reservoir, then allow if to equalise by drawing fluid back in. Repeat a few times. Obviously helps when you know the volume held by a system, so you know how much fluid it can actually draw in. Still requires a decent seal on the MC which seems the be the root cause of issues here - doesn’t matter if it’s pressure like a Gunsons or vacuum with a Sealey/Mityvac if you can’t get a seal it’s never going to work. Sadly can’t remember if the production line ones are a bayonet or rubber bung fitting. Been a while since I’ve worked near one - but they take about 5 minutes from empty system to functional brakes. Good job really as it’s usually only a couple of stations before they get driven off the end of the track!
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Last Edit: Jun 16, 2020 20:29:47 GMT by Phil H
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Jun 16, 2020 20:43:21 GMT
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This one: www.agri-supply.co.uk/pneumatic-manual-oil-extractor-18l/Half the price of identical Sealey one but any would do as long as it takes oil and chems with viton seals etc. OP was on about pressure bleeders that force it in from the top, but i always thought that was asking for a big mess in the engine bay so prefer the suck method myself. I've had limited success using a Gunson's system and SWMBO got fed up of being used as a pedal pusher last time I worked on the brakes. So looking for a better solution and something that can be used for multiple purposes has to be good. Sucking the fluid through seems a more logical approach and safer. The one you listed is actually twice the price of the Sealy unit. Show me where you can buy the sealey 18L tp6906 for £60 then which isnt as good as it isnt pneumatic as well as manual. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-TP6906-Vacuum-Oil-and-Fluid-Extractor-and-Discharge-18ltr/352072789136
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Jun 16, 2020 20:46:01 GMT
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£2 car boot sale purchase ezibleed universal cap works and gets used by my mates cos their universal caps also spray fluid out of the cap, think mine is older the box is definitely older looking
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Jun 16, 2020 23:05:08 GMT
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Vacuum - and not through the bleed nipples. Generate a vacuum in the reservoir, then allow if to equalise by drawing fluid back in. Repeat a few times. Well there's interesting. Ta.
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