Indicator Lamps - Help

[streetracer75]

I am hoping (someone who knows more than I do) can help me with this.  The Simca I recently imported has clear front indicator lenses and clear bulbs... No problem I thought, so off to Halfords to buy two Amber bulbs and job done, or so I thought! I didn't realise Amber bulbs have a different pin offset to clear bulbs and won't fit my lamp housing. The rareness of the car make the chances of finding Amber lenses pretty much non-existent, so I am a bit stuck what to do, as it's my understanding you can't have clear indicators on a post 1965 car? Has anyone else come across this problem? Thanks

[brc76]

A lot of people just paint the bulbs, but do the current bulbs have any part numbers on them?

[zeberdee]

streetracer75 , Is the bulb like this ??

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283960426377

First one that came up , local motor factors should be able to sort you out .

[Rich]

You can buy amber bulbs with straight pins. You can also just file a pin off an amber bulb. Pretty obvious but it works fine. Worst case you can use a blob of solder to make a new pin to keep it all snug.

[streetracer75]

I thought about the paint but the reviews on that stuff are terrible!

[streetracer75]

The locating slots for the pins on the light fitting are at quarter-to-three. All the pins on the Halfords and GEC Amber lamps are located at ten-to-two.

[streetracer75]

It's a different bulb, but I will check-out that motor factor

[mk2cossie]

As said, you can get amber bulbs with straight pins. We have/had a box of them at work

[swampy76]

Go to hobby craft find the plastic model making stuff
Humbrol do an orange paint that works really well to convert clear bulbs to orange

[streetracer75]

Yes but they all have offset pins
These are the ones I am looking for, but without the off set pins.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153667142383

[fr€$h&m1nt¥]

So I went to eBay and searched for 21/5w amber bulb straight pins...

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283884628614

[fr€$h&m1nt¥]

Sept 16, 2020 18:19:52 GMT streetracer75 said:

The locating slots for the pins on the light fitting are at quarter-to-three. All the pins on the Halfords and GEC Amber lamps are located at ten-to-two.

Sorry think I misread your original post - so you have offset bulb holders but at a different offset angle to the common ones?

Post up a photo of the pin alignment of your current bulb.

It might be better in the long run to swap the bulb holder...

www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/mobile/product_list/81

[Rich]

Sept 17, 2020 3:58:43 GMT fr€$h&m1nt¥ said:

Sept 16, 2020 18:19:52 GMT streetracer75 said:

The locating slots for the pins on the light fitting are at quarter-to-three. All the pins on the Halfords and GEC Amber lamps are located at ten-to-two.

Sorry think I misread your original post - so you have offset bulb holders but at a different offset angle to the common ones?

Post up a photo of the pin alignment of your current bulb.

It might be better in the long run to swap the bulb holder...

www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/mobile/product_list/81

Pins at quarter to 3 makes them straight pin. The ones you posted are the ones OP needs. I had a load years ago from taking the amber diffuser out of my SJ413 indicator lenses.

[fr€$h&m1nt¥]

Sept 17, 2020 6:55:41 GMT Rich said:

Sept 17, 2020 3:58:43 GMT fr€$h&m1nt¥ said:

Sorry think I misread your original post - so you have offset bulb holders but at a different offset angle to the common ones?

Post up a photo of the pin alignment of your current bulb.

It might be better in the long run to swap the bulb holder...

www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/mobile/product_list/81

Pins at quarter to 3 makes them straight pin. The ones you posted are the ones OP needs. I had a load years ago from taking the amber diffuser out of my SJ413 indicator lenses.

oh yeah - in my head in the middle of the night I was picturing quarter to 12 as in offset pins 90 degrees apart. I'd call opposite pins half past twelve. tomaRto tomaYto I guess.

[streetracer75]

That's correct, the ones I need have the pins opposite each other (half past twelve). The only amber stop and tail ones I can find all have the offset pins. It's a Dutch registered car and the front side lights double as indicators, so hence the need for an amber stop and tail bulb, rather than a stock indicator bulb.

[gtviva]

I had the same problem about 12 years ago, could only get offset pin orange bulbs so ground one pin off to get me going, its still like it 12 years on with no problems!

[fr€$h&m1nt¥]

Sept 17, 2020 8:50:40 GMT streetracer75 said:

That's correct, the ones I need have the pins opposite each other (half past twelve). The only amber stop and tail ones I can find all have the offset pins. It's a Dutch registered car and the front side lights double as indicators, so hence the need for an amber stop and tail bulb, rather than a stock indicator bulb.

But two of us above have both posted ebay links to amber bulbs with opposite pins - and another member above says he's got a whole box of them at work.

Is it because you need 21/5w Amber bulbs with opposite pins in the Netherlands and we've posted single filament 21w bulbs?

[streetracer75]

But the ones posted are not double contact bulbs. The car has been imported from The Netherlands where the front indicators light also act as the side lights, so it's not a regular single contact indicator bulb I need. What I need is a double contact amber bulb with the pins straight opposite each other (half past twelve). No one seems to have them?

[Rich]

Sept 17, 2020 9:27:49 GMT streetracer75 said:

But the ones posted are not double contact bulbs. The car has been imported from The Netherlands where the front indicators light also act as the side lights, so it's not a regular single contact indicator bulb I need. What I need is a double contact amber bulb with the pins straight opposite each other (half past twelve). No one seems to have them?

You didn’t initially make it clear you needed a dual filament bulb. Check www.classiccarleds.co.uk, they make a brilliant range of solutions including bulbs that flash orange but light white for side marker.

[fr€$h&m1nt¥]

very intriguing - I'm sure we have members in the Netherlands on here - maybe add that to the thread title or failing someone over there sending a pair to you it seems like a bulb holder change or filing off a pin is the best answer.