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This has been my pride and joy for a few years. I bought it stock standard. I lifted the suspension with 3 inch, followed by a 2 inch body lift then 35 inch tyres, an exhaust, a little bit of engine work, bit more engine work etc etc It was a very fast and capable 4WD. However after taking it to the beach and showing of I calculated that my car just used ......2.82 mpg That was more than my brothers new prime mover truck..... I sold it soon after, but still miss it. Are you sure there wasn't a hole in your tank?!? No, not a hole at all, I did have one in my wallet though..... I was just showing of on the beach of Moreton Island. A beautiful sand Island of the coast near Brisbane. There are no real roads just sand tracks. With my new big exhaust and all the work done behind me it was time to show of. My tank was good for about 83 liters. I got 85 Km on the clock when I had to fill it up. Luckily they did sell fuel on the island back then. They don't anymore. I am now much older and wiser!! I am looking at this thing tomorrow morning! At least it has 2 tanks!! Good for 150 liters of fuel
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What I can remember down the decades. Not necessarily in chronological order. 1975 ADO16 in Austin flavour (1275 manual) regular 33 mpg in a mix of town and open road driving, mostly hard thrashed cos I was young and silly. 1951 Phase One Standard Vanguard routinely got 22 mpg, once again mostly driven fairly hard. 1974 Bedford TK (214 petrol, four speed, single speed diff, 16" wheels, 6.5 ton gvm) equivalent to 10 mpg but running lpg all the time cos it ran really rough on super petrol and lpg was way less expensive. 1979 RX30 Cressida (18r and 5 speed) used to get 18 mpg around town. Never did the calcs for open road use. 1980 EN1 Civic (1335cc Hondamatic) got 37 mpg between Dunedin and Whangarei (1000ish miles pretty much non stop) hard thrashed all the way. 1978 XC Falcon wagon (4.1 crossflow and column three speed) averaged 22 mpg, didn't seem to make any difference whether it was fully loaded or had just the driver on board. A friend had a 2002 Holden Monaro (5.7 V8 and six speed manual) for a while. I went on a trip with him once when it was fairly new. We were pootling along behind something slow on a rural highway then when we came to a straight bit of road he whacked it down into second gear and nailed the gas to pass. At that point the onboard computer was reporting fuel consumption as 40l/100km or around 5.8 mpg. 1991 EA2 Falcon GL wagon (3.9 and four speed automatic) went from Whangarei to Porirua (802km) on 78 litres, that's almost 29 mpg. 1990 EA Falcon S wagon, my current daily, (3.9 and five speed manual) usually gets mid 20's but returned 14 mpg on a long day trip towing a double horse box. 1990 BG Laser, my wife's daily, (1.6 and five speed manual) recently returned 43 mpg on a long day trip which impressed me enormously.
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Oct 20, 2020 13:54:40 GMT
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I suppose I should reply; My landy is very efficient at about 30MPG from the standard 300 TDI. But I only use it when I actually need it, which is not often. I started worrying about MPG in 2008 when the prices first hit £1. Since then I have changed my daily to hatchbacks with little diesel engines, currently a Polo Bluemotion. I appreciate a flash car is more interesting, but when you drive on your own on 50MPH, the flash car with big engine is just a bit pointless. Also, My daily driver has to be something reliable, I cannot be worried again if the car works tomorrow. I also really don't care about this showing off business, and don't really care that much about how I get there. My wife drives the big estate for family outings, but does not many miles otherwise, but at least if I need the space I can use that or my Landrover (when it runs...). So the POLO BM gives me generally 70MPG by the time I arrive at work. I got 83 in the summer once. It is also tax free. I have to say, the bluemotion has a charm to it, with it lowered, rear earo device, skirts and front grill block. It is there for a reason and it is not to show off. It also has taller gear ratios in 4th and 5th and a few weight saving measures. I have done 100000 miles in it since I bought it 2012 (mileage 127000 now) and hope to get to 200000 at least. There is 74bhp on tap from the 1.2 3 cyl TDI. It's max speed due to higher gearing and low drag kit is 108MPH. I had it over 100MPH once; I always look at it and think it is the right car for me.
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No idea what the mpg is, but a 14 mile round trip to the pub and back in my Volvo T4 turbo cost me a tenner in fuel. And that was when fuel was 80p a litre. i took the imp after that ...........
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Oct 21, 2020 10:17:59 GMT
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My track Puma does between 9-11MPG from a modified 1.7 16v... TBH it does spend it's life once warm above 5krpm normally.
My C220d estate does some insane MPG when you consider it's a 2 tonne estate merc, but you have to watch it. Knocking around town it sits in the late 30s, but I've had 56-57 on a long run not watching the speedo. More impressively is getting late 40s early 50s while towing the puma on a nice long flat 62mph cruise control set run.
I used to run an e39 528i with a manual box which would could make do 40mpg or 20mpg depending on what you do.
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Oct 23, 2020 10:29:24 GMT
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Managed 34.61 in the Stag in the South if France over 245 miles while on Holiday. Me, wife and kids and a boot full of luggage. That was doing 60-65mph. I was impressed with that. The holiday over 10 days it averaged 31.
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Oct 23, 2020 12:31:09 GMT
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I once managed 44mpg in my 96 Golf GTi 8v on a gentle run to see the inlaws. I was driving like a nun but even so I was quite surprised.
The old SLK 230 was a thirsty beast round town. Regularly under 23mpg if I remember it correctly. But I didn't buy it for fuel economy...
My first car, a Mini 1000 gave me a shock on a 130 mile run to see a friend. I had serviced it and set it up properly beforehand and managed 53mpg. It struggled to get over 40mpg usually which showed how badly it was previously set up!
My friend once had a V8 SD1 Rover in the early 90s which needed a service. He was booting it around town a lot but even he was surprised at the dreadful 7mpg he got. He serviced it properly and it went up to 15.
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Oct 23, 2020 12:32:04 GMT
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So we have done 2 x trips to Spain and back in our VW T5 1.9TDi camper conversion. Both trips took the same route at the same time of year so 3000 miles round trip at 40'C and 65mph for most of it.
First trip was with 90bhp and achieved 36mpg
Second trip she had been remapped to 145bhp and achieved 38mpg
That's fully loaded with camping stuff so well over 2 ton with air con flat out all the way!
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Oct 23, 2020 13:33:25 GMT
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Last Edit: Oct 23, 2020 13:36:34 GMT by MkX
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Oct 23, 2020 14:43:04 GMT
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I know that the years don't match up, but I really think Jag should have put a V12 in this. Has anyone done it?
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Oct 23, 2020 17:03:24 GMT
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I know that the years don't match up, but I really think Jag should have put a V12 in this. Has anyone done it? Yes, I believe at least 2 enthusiasts have installed early V12's. At one point Lyons considered producing a Daimler version of the Mk X and installed one of the 4½ litre Edward Turner designed V8 hemi lumps for testing. Apparently this car buzzed around the MIRA track all day happily at speeds in excess of 130mph at the hands of anyone who fancied a go. The V8 was rated at 220bhp whereas the V12, (as installed in the XJ12 s1), was rated at 253 bhp so that would probably have given this fat-bottomed gal 140mph.
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Oct 23, 2020 17:16:17 GMT
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I get low to mid 30s in my Firenza on a motorway trip, more so if there are long sections of road works and 50mph limits. That's a 2.3 engine, big valve head and twin 48 Dellortos.
Unfortunately it's not quite as good on normal roads up and down the gears.
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Oct 23, 2020 17:33:39 GMT
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My lupo 1.7 sdi can 55 - 60mpg if you do 60mph. 60mph is so so boring though.
Modified mk5 golf does aboy 35mpg.
My highly modified subaru sti did 20mpg but was worth every penny.
They're all moderns I know.
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Oct 23, 2020 17:51:53 GMT
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My 205 on Jenveys does about 25mpg. It can do more but the sound is addictive.
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205Mi16 - 262 cams, Jenvey Throttle Bodies, Emerald managment blah blah...... E91 320D MSport Honda NC30 Vespa 300GTS
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Oct 23, 2020 19:06:09 GMT
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A lot of people might find this one surprising; My Dad has a very late ('59) Lotus VI. It's an extremely light car, before the engine & running gear had been installed we could quite easily pick it up and move it around. He even took it for frame repairs on the roofrack of his VW Derby. It was fast in its day but not by modern standards, it barely keeps up with modern traffic. The engine is the 1930's designed 1172cc Ford sidevalve '10hp' with a few period tweaks, (36bhp by modern rating). It should be tight enough as he did a meticulous rebuild. It's not a slab-fronted brick; it was as slippery as they could make it in the day, even being fitted with the more streamlined Lotus 7 nosecone from new, and he usually runs it with racing screens only. Yet the best he can hope for on a run is 25mpg? Summer idyll by Chris, on Flickr
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Oct 24, 2020 21:13:43 GMT
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Depends a lot on how you use it. I took my Sprint's Donor Omega 2.2 auto on a 200+ mile round trip to lancashire and the trip meter said it averaged 38.8 mpg on the journey. The M6 was relatively clear and I was not hanging about, spending most time around 85-90. I though that was pretty fair and bodes well for it's performance in the Sprint which is half the weight of the porky Vauxhall, isn't saddled with power sapping aircon and PAS any longer and has a taller diff to boot!
OTOH the same car, on a round trip into my local village the next day (1.2 miles, with a stop in the middle) saw it return 4.6 mpg!
The Carledo, thrashed mercilessly, returns a pretty consistent 36mpg which i'm quite happy with, not breathtakingly good, but a lot better than the original 61bhp 1300 could have managed, if subjected to the same treatment.
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I returned over 40mpg from my ls400 driving down to London and back
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I've never really paid attention to mpg in my cars. I enjoy driving and do so "spiritidly" on occasion and the added few pence it may cost is worth it in the grand scale of things. There are more expensive hobbies. I know people who will buy a car based mainly on mpg and obsess over driving as economically as possible. There is more to life in my opinion. I'm trying to think like this with my new V8 Jag that's hovering at 20mpg 😂
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I was meant to reply in more detail. So: The best? 2006 VW B6 Passat TDI 105 ; Great MPG and drive but a curse word car! 50MPG! Other diesels didn't quite get the same as that Passat. Those PD engines are brilliant 1991 Mercedes W124 250D Manual : When sorted out, this always returned 45MPG, and it was quite a nice drive. Ken Dalton who I bought it off from KensBenz had 2 other 250D manuals which he adores! But, let's kick off. 1989 Volvo 740 GLE Estate ; 36MPG. I was shocked when I first checked it. We cruised it at 80MPH around Europe and it was returning that. I thought the maths was out! 1989 Ford Escort XR3i '89 Spec Convertible : 40MPG on a European run, with a shot thermostat as well! 2001 Renault Clio 172 : 36MPG average and 42MPG on a run. Besides being fun to drive, the MPG was another reason I bought it. As long as the spares situation doesn't kill them off, these are a modern classic in the making, especially the now super expensive Trophy model ; To think I could have bought one a few years ago for £4k, which seemed expensive for any 1*2, albeit Trophys were also stronger moneywise. 1989 JaguarSport XJ40 XJR 4.0 : 28MPG on a run, with 20 around town. I thought that was OK TBH! Especially when you compare it to what the E32 used to do. 944 Turbo : 29MPG with 300BHP, and that was on a run. BMW E46 M3 : 24MPG with 33MPG on a run. Not bad at all, and it surprised RetroWarwicK on the way to Germany. The shockers? 1972 Mercedes W108 280SE 4.5 : 14-17MPG. Considering it was powered by a low compression engine with the aerodynamics of a brick, I guess it wasn't too bad. I knew it was never going to be great. It didn't matter if you did 65MPH or 80MPH, it still drank the fuel like crazy! 1991 BMW E32 730i (Straight 6) : 18-20MPG. This one was always the surprise. It was curse word on fuel! It made a lovely sound, yes. Jesus it loved a drink. Not what was needed on a school/uni budget, so the loan of that car didn't last long, especially when the XJ40 trumped it on fuel consumption. I do fancy another E32 however, but maybe not at today's prices. After the Merc W108 I didn't really care much about fuel consumption again. The Mondeo is not bad 35MPG on a run however.
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Oct 25, 2020 10:06:50 GMT
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Recently got 35mpg from a TDV8 Rangey that was otherwise in its 20's. Was over 37mpg before I hit traffic. Mixed driving, but the majority (60%) of it was motorway. (not 'retro', but still on topic )
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