ChasR
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I think the A2 will definitely be one of the cars we go for but perhaps not to replace the old car I have stumbled across the Alfa Brera... That is a nice car and seems to tick all boxes... Good shout. Good Alfas of this generation are drying up with decent engine choices. A friend of mine wanted a 156 2.4 JTDm Sportwagon. While the 2.4s were never super cheap, it seems they have gone a little crazy lately. I'd like to know where peeps can get a running Amazon for £3k however? Even 3 years ago, a friend who I went with to view one paid £3.5k for an early 122. It would owe him over £5-6k to be roadworthy. Sure, he had one or two phonecalls trying to call him in From what I've seen recently, peeps would struggle to get a car in the condition he bought his in. As an example, I personally saw the below example. It may look patinated but it was a nail in the flesh that clearly wanted a truckload of cash throwing at it to get it roadworthy. Anyway. TT is probably a good shout here. They never drop to super cheap levels mind you and I suspect you'd be looking around at your budget. It is possible mind you. 00s cars are a strange one. They're not old enough to many, but they are also either at their lowest ebb or are increasing in value by the day. The BMW E46 330 is a good example. Clean 330ds and is are now far harder to get in good condition below your budget, especially in the touring format. A2 you could argue could be a smart buy. It seems their following is increasing, partly in thanks to their rarity and a rather interesting backstory to them. This leaves you with what else to get. Pao is a great shout. However, spares for almost anything old and Japanese can be challenging coming from British stuff, at least alot of BMC/BL stuff anyway. Instead of a Clio, you could get an original Twingo, which is possible in your budget. Clio is a good shout, and buying a 172/182 now would not be a bad idea at all ; they are not quite as cheap as they were but are still very much affordable and in your budget.
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ChasR
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I think the A2 will definitely be one of the cars we go for but perhaps not to replace the old car I have stumbled across the Alfa Brera... That is a nice car and seems to tick all boxes... Good shout. Good Alfas of this generation are drying up with decent engine choices. A friend of mine wanted a 156 2.4 JTDm Sportwagon. While the 2.4s were never super cheap, it seems they have gone a little crazy lately. I'd like to know where peeps can get a running Amazon for £3k however? Even 3 years ago, a friend who I went with to view one paid £3.5k for an early 122. It would owe him over £5-6k to be roadworthy. Sure, he had one or two phonecalls trying to call him in From what I've seen recently, peeps would struggle to get a car in the condition he bought his in. As an example, I personally saw the below example. It may look patinated but it was a nail in the flesh that clearly wanted a truckload of cash throwing at it to get it roadworthy. www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/events/2020-auctions/cca-june-live-online-auction-2020/cca-june-live-online-auction-2020/cars/1966-volvo-121-b18-amazonAnyway. TT is probably a good shout here. They never drop to super cheap levels mind you and I suspect you'd be looking around at your budget. It is possible mind you. 00s cars are a strange one. They're not old enough to many, but they are also either at their lowest ebb or are increasing in value by the day. The BMW E46 330 is a good example. Clean 330ds and is are now far harder to get in good condition below your budget, especially in the touring format. A2 you could argue could be a smart buy. It seems their following is increasing, partly in thanks to their rarity and a rather interesting backstory to them. This leaves you with what else to get. Pao is a great shout. However, spares for almost anything old and Japanese can be challenging coming from British stuff, at least alot of BMC/BL stuff anyway. Instead of a Clio, you could get an original Twingo, which is possible in your budget. Clio is a good shout, and buying a 172/182 now would not be a bad idea at all ; they are not quite as cheap as they were but are still very much affordable and in your budget.
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Dec 19, 2020 16:59:55 GMT
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Or how about a Nissan March (micra) estate. Never seen one and I don't know if there are any in the UK, but how cool? I have never seen these before but it ticks all boxes!
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Dec 19, 2020 17:01:59 GMT
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I think the A2 will definitely be one of the cars we go for but perhaps not to replace the old car I have stumbled across the Alfa Brera... That is a nice car and seems to tick all boxes... Good shout. Good Alfas of this generation are drying up with decent engine choices. A friend of mine wanted a 156 2.4 JTDm Sportwagon. While the 2.4s were never super cheap, it seems they have gone a little crazy lately. I'd like to know where peeps can get a running Amazon for £3k however? Even 3 years ago, a friend who I went with to view one paid £3.5k for an early 122. It would owe him over £5-6k to be roadworthy. Sure, he had one or two phonecalls trying to call him in From what I've seen recently, peeps would struggle to get a car in the condition he bought his in. As an example, I personally saw the below example. It may look patinated but it was a nail in the flesh that clearly wanted a truckload of cash throwing at it to get it roadworthy. www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/events/2020-auctions/cca-june-live-online-auction-2020/cca-june-live-online-auction-2020/cars/1966-volvo-121-b18-amazonAnyway. TT is probably a good shout here. They never drop to super cheap levels mind you and I suspect you'd be looking around at your budget. It is possible mind you. 00s cars are a strange one. They're not old enough to many, but they are also either at their lowest ebb or are increasing in value by the day. The BMW E46 330 is a good example. Clean 330ds and is are now far harder to get in good condition below your budget, especially in the touring format. A2 you could argue could be a smart buy. It seems their following is increasing, partly in thanks to their rarity and a rather interesting backstory to them. This leaves you with what else to get. Pao is a great shout. However, spares for almost anything old and Japanese can be challenging coming from British stuff, at least alot of BMC/BL stuff anyway. Instead of a Clio, you could get an original Twingo, which is possible in your budget. Clio is a good shout, and buying a 172/182 now would not be a bad idea at all ; they are not quite as cheap as they were but are still very much affordable and in your budget. Seems like the winning combo will be the Brera for the weekends and something a bit fun, the A2 would be great as a second car and then probably keep the daily (focus MK2) for driving to work and back
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Rob M
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Dec 19, 2020 19:40:48 GMT
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I know it's my age but I am struggling to get my head around the notion that an A2 is considered a 'modern classic'. Mind you, much of what has been put forward is proving difficult for me to see as any kind of classic, retro, etc, etc. I understand that there may be a need for something that still ticks the 'old' box, but with a twist of modern in terms of safety and comfort, but you can still go back nearly 40 years to find something that will fit the bill rather than 20 years, surely? Ford Sierras, MK2 Cavaliers, Astras, MK3 Escorts and the like, all designed to be safer in an accident than previous generations, all comfortable at illegal motorway speeds, all fitted with rear belts, decent economy, interior space and old enough now to be as far removed from what is made today as the Telstar satellite is compared to the International Space Station. £3k should get you a good car. A MK3 Escort 1.6 Ghia is up for sale, near me, for £2.5K. It is in superb condition. Something like that would tick all of your boxes. All below are £3K and under...some well under.
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Last Edit: Dec 19, 2020 19:41:52 GMT by Rob M
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Dec 19, 2020 20:20:20 GMT
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Or how about a Nissan March (micra) estate. Never seen one and I don't know if there are any in the UK, but how cool? I have never seen these before but it ticks all boxes! It seems that the correct term is a Nissan March Box. There is also the Nissan March Sedan, but tbh that doesnt look half as good as the Box. I don't know what it would be like to get one imported, but I guess it might be an option. The whole 'what makes a car modern classic/ retro/ whatever is a massive can of worms. I grew up in a world of cars from the 50's/60's/70's, but I can see features in more modern cars that would make me put them in the classic and/or retro bracket, but to me classic, retro and old are 3 quite different things, and just because a car is a classic doesnt nessasarily mean its old. Anyway, ive got a Z12 Cube, not old, not that retro (but slightly retrofied) but i'll stick my neck out and consider it a modern classic. Or maybe its just down to what you make of it.
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Dec 19, 2020 20:31:30 GMT
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I know it's my age but I am struggling to get my head around the notion that an A2 is considered a 'modern classic'. Mind you, much of what has been put forward is proving difficult for me to see as any kind of classic, retro, etc, etc. I understand that there may be a need for something that still ticks the 'old' box, but with a twist of modern in terms of safety and comfort, but you can still go back nearly 40 years to find something that will fit the bill rather than 20 years, surely? Ford Sierras, MK2 Cavaliers, Astras, MK3 Escorts and the like, all designed to be safer in an accident than previous generations, all comfortable at illegal motorway speeds, all fitted with rear belts, decent economy, interior space and old enough now to be as far removed from what is made today as the Telstar satellite is compared to the International Space Station. £3k should get you a good car. A MK3 Escort 1.6 Ghia is up for sale, near me, for £2.5K. It is in superb condition. Something like that would tick all of your boxes. All below are £3K and under...some well under. How much was/is the green Cavalier?
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Rob M
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Dec 19, 2020 21:11:51 GMT
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From the ad on FB market place: Vauxhall cavalier 1.3L , 51,000 miles from new, full v5 present , rare beast totally original, had the car for over 3 years now, done lots of work on engine including new cam belt and water and full service, runs and drives mint , moted it in 2018 but sat in garage ever since now mot expired again, only done just over 51k from new, needs some bodywork rust on arches drivers seat a bit worn but not major will make a very nice car bargain £1495 No messers At that price the arch repair and paint colour match would easily cost in. MK2 Cavs drive great, I've owned a few...
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ChasR
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Dec 20, 2020 22:53:42 GMT
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Bear in mind that back in the 2000s, Mk3 Capris were considered classics then . A friend and I were reminiscing over his 3.0 S and other Fast Fords back then. The Audi I think is and odd one to be considered a modern classic, but it's interesting nonetheless to alot of people. -It was one of the very first cars to have ally as part of its monocoque. The X350 Jag came after . -The idea behind it was very ahead of its time, and would not catch on for many years to come. Some have said it was too far ahead. -The above made it quite the gamble. Audi thought they would succeed. They didn't. For another time in VAG's history, they lost money on every one they sold. What hasn't helped them is how modern they still look. They do make a Focus look old, and something like an Astra from that time even more so.
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Rob M
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Dec 21, 2020 18:47:05 GMT
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Bear in mind that back in the 2000s, Mk3 Capris were considered classics then . A friend and I were reminiscing over his 3.0 S and other Fast Fords back then. The Audi I think is and odd one to be considered a modern classic, but it's interesting nonetheless to alot of people. -It was one of the very first cars to have ally as part of its monocoque. The X350 Jag came after . -The idea behind it was very ahead of its time, and would not catch on for many years to come. Some have said it was too far ahead. -The above made it quite the gamble. Audi thought they would succeed. They didn't. For another time in VAG's history, they lost money on every one they sold. What hasn't helped them is how modern they still look. They do make a Focus look old, and something like an Astra from that time even more so. They were probably considered 'classics' back then because they were little more than updated MK2s which first hit our roads in 1974!! By the early 2000s that hatchback style had been around for nearly 30 years, it was an old model updated and milked to death, it would have been unsurprising that people considered it a bit of a classic, it would have formed many a childhood memory tbf. What constitutes a 'modern classic' is, ultimately, a moot point. It's a personal thing but there is very little out there that I would call a modern classic, 20 year old cars, in the main, are just that, 20 year old cars. Each to their own though, that is what makes the world go round.
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Dec 24, 2020 11:23:55 GMT
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I haven't ruled out something a bit more 80s as per the examples, a 3-point belt is a must really, but that is about it!
I have just listed my car for sale, so will see what is about when that goes
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Feb 13, 2021 18:49:24 GMT
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Update to this, I have sold the Hillman now and am going to trade the focus MK2 for a A2... The Alfa Brera / 159 route sounded interesting but something didn't feel right, eventually figured that I was too frugal to want to spend out too much.
Which brings me back to the A2, the more research I do the more I want one
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