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A little bit of progress. Not as much as I would like, but sometimes family life has to come first, and the eldest daughter's bedroom needed a makeover, so I have been fitting false ceilings and stuff. Lots of little bits done in the meantime, I have bought an English Wheel, just gotta learn how to use it now to remake the outer skins of the ddors!. A few more patch repairs, not really worth posting. Some took bloody ages to get right, others straight in no problem. The biggest thing I have done is to throw a bit of red oxide on the inside of the truck. When these were sprayed originally, the sprayers were not too fussy on the bits that couldn't be seen, like up inside the front panel, so no great coverage there. It's amazing the difference a bit of paint makes, so it's all the same colour. Easier to see lines and imperfections etc. More later
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It all takes time and money, why do I never have them both at the same time?
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Looks good all in one colour Andy. Is that hole in the drivers side floor for the master cylinder? Keep the pics coming
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Never mind the 'raks Andy, get it out there in their faces ;D Some serious skills knocin around on this site...... I'm learning shedloads - just naff at turning it into my own reality! Good luck with her, looking great.
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Looks good all in one colour Andy. Is that hole in the drivers side floor for the master cylinder? Keep the pics coming Hole? Hole? I've filled that! That's one of the patch panels. Not too fussed about it though, as it's hidden by the seat. That is if you mean the one under the seat bit, not the floorpan. That hole by the side of the tunnel is for the foot operated dim/dip switch. The original resevoir was Fubarrred, and a trip to the local scrappy prodiuced one off a Fiat Punto. Does clutch and brakes in one resevoir, and made out of plastic, but it will work. And it has a test switch built into the top, so I can check the levels. I know it's straying from original, but hey-ho, sometimes we have to economise. I got fed up seeing diffent colours, so I wallopped it over. Makes it a lot easier to see dents. Incidentally, if anyody is interested, the paint is red oxide primer. Not motor factors watered down curse word water, but proper industrial stuff from an industrial paint manufacturer. 4.5 litres was £15, and it's good thick stuff. Search your local phone books for industrial paint. Most places will do it. At present, I have about 6 pieces left to do on the cab itself, before I start doing the roof. Not sure whether to try and make one out of two, or make new gutters from scratch. Either way wont be easy, but we will succeed. Earlier on somebody commented about learning off the RR forum. That's partly why I post things I have done, a lot of people will know things already, but others may learn from my (and Dave's and other's) posts and if so that's a bonus. I have had to learn off others, so I'm just glad to be helping out. Sometimes the methods are a little non-conformist, but so what? It all helps to keep old motors on the road. Incidentally, did anybody know that the rear quarter roof panel off a mini is within 1/8 of an inch of a 400e panel van roof? Andy
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1960 Ford Thames 402e resto 1965 Ford Thames 400e van 5.7 ltr 1965 Ford 100e 2.1 Pinto power
It all takes time and money, why do I never have them both at the same time?
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And just to whet your automotive appetites a bit, a couple of pictures of the van, with the wife's 100e in the background. The engine is a small block Buick, 5.7 litre, which has got to go in the back of the van. Question is, how do you move about 2 hundredweight ( 120 kilos for you metric peeps) 7 feet forward in a van to mount it? Answers on a postcard please! Enjoy! Andy
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Last Edit: Apr 7, 2008 18:08:07 GMT by sidspop
1960 Ford Thames 402e resto 1965 Ford Thames 400e van 5.7 ltr 1965 Ford 100e 2.1 Pinto power
It all takes time and money, why do I never have them both at the same time?
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Andy, PM'd you - medievel cantilever method if engine crane doesn't reach! John
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Hi John, well your idea would work, but only if I had about half a dozen slaves dresssed in loincloths. They're a bit hard to find around these parts, but I believe there's a few in West Brom!
There is another method, just think pyrammids......
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1960 Ford Thames 402e resto 1965 Ford Thames 400e van 5.7 ltr 1965 Ford 100e 2.1 Pinto power
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Great stuff mate.
Hope to join you workers soon enough.
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Hadn´t realized up until now that the van doesn´t have any side doors. If it was mine Andy and my crane didn´t reach i´d jack up the van and stuff it in from underneath. On mine i had to take out the passenger door, roll in the crane from the side, roll the the engine underneath the jacked up van and pull the engine up that way. No chance of fitting it between the front seats?
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Andy, With a long enough rsj you'd do it alone - no sweat ;D Loin cloths are 'de rigeur' nowadays...
Good luck whichever way you end up going for.
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Well the method I had thought of, and this is by no means definate yet, is to oyk the block and gearbox up into the back of the van, via an average Machine Mart engine hoist, and sit it on a a scaffold plank, which is in turn on some steel tubes on the parrallel chassis rails. Then I can roll the whole caboodle forwards to the correct place. Then by using a pre-made piece of box section across the block, I can use a pair of jacks to lower it down into place. Carefully that is. Very very carefully. Rather than using jacks to lift, they can be used to lower. Whoever fitted the puny Rover 3'5 originally cut a hole in the roof, and presumably pulled it up from a pit. However I don't have a pit. Minor detail. As I said in an earlier post, sometimes you gotta think laterally as well as logically. When I built my garage, I fitted a 16 foot RSJ across the roof as engine hoist. Took me as long to lift it and position it as it took The Doris to make a cuppa. Without me breaking into a sweat even. Ally ladder off floor, held in stout workbench vice. Block and tackle through rung, up it went, spun it round, dropped it down. That way the floor takes all the weight, and the block and tackle does the graft.
Any comments on the engine plan?
Andy
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1960 Ford Thames 402e resto 1965 Ford Thames 400e van 5.7 ltr 1965 Ford 100e 2.1 Pinto power
It all takes time and money, why do I never have them both at the same time?
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I think i can see where you´re coming from Andy, sounds like a good idea.
You´ll be making the subframe/engine mountframe to match the chassis i assume?
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roll car over engine and gearbox, set up a frame inside the van (or run some really heavy steel through from the back and out through the frotn doors) and use a hand block n tackle to raise the engine, used basically this method in a kombi as I didnt have access to an engine jack, worked fine.
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Remade In Australia thereimaginarium.com.au
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Apr 20, 2008 20:31:38 GMT
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Hey ho it's me again. A little progress with things, but not enough, as per usual. I have bought an English Wheel, and been making a frame to mount it on, bolted to the floor. Paid 3/4 for a machine of what I paid for the truck in the first place, but now I have it, whereas it was always on my wish list. I have made new door cards, and fitted plywood to the seat bottoms, so they can be re-upholstered. Been doing the odd bits of repairs on the cab, now down to single figures, here is rear of cab behind passenger seat And I made a battery box/ locker thing. The Thames originally had the battery mounted on the floor behind the drivers seat, but I don't like the idea of a cab full of hydrogen, or an exploding battery. To keep the thing in keeping with its age, I decided to make a locker thing on the side of the chassis, and just happened to have a ready made metal box kicking about. A few bits of angle welded into a frame, and it's now stuck under the bed of the truck. With a bit of paint I think it will look acceptable, and in keeping with a small commercial. Things are really getting tight on time at the moment, I have a show in July I want to debut the truck at, and more scary is the land where the truck now stands may be sold (I rent it at present) so a housemove may be on the cards 3 vans, 1 truck, and a 100e, plus garage and contents of cellar and attic, all to move to somewhere else. Help!!!! More later
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1960 Ford Thames 402e resto 1965 Ford Thames 400e van 5.7 ltr 1965 Ford 100e 2.1 Pinto power
It all takes time and money, why do I never have them both at the same time?
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Apr 20, 2008 21:59:14 GMT
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re the getting the engine in questionwhy not just take out the wind screen and open the back doors then run an rsj with a block and tackle through the van and slide it on in? pop the van on a set of creepers and then you can move it if needed?
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1987 fiat 126-nearly actually done! 1972 beetle - lawn art 2003 z4 daily-new wheels a comin! 2008 R56 Mini cooper "mental Mickey"
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Nice progress Andy,
i´ll keep the fingers crossed that you don´t have to move.
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May 16, 2008 21:36:35 GMT
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Hello again, it is I. I have been tinkering with various bits, little tidying up here and there. Seats are away being covered, with the doorcards. I have settled on cream and Saphire Blue. No doubt you'lll see it when finished. The theory here is it's easier to match the paint colour to the vinyl, than vinyl to paint colour. I am not really fussed what colour blue it is, whether or not it's an original colour, or whatever. Main thing is that it's a colour that's available off the self, soit can be touched up if needed. Anyway, tonights little exploits. I have decided to have a go at the gutters, and having given it a lot of thought, I realised the best way would be to make up a complete 1.5 " repair section all the way round, to get rid of all crusty bits. Rather than try to patch repair the bad bits. This is the worse roof of the 2, so I can practice on this one, and still have a backup if I fail! Now one hing I have learned is that when welding, steel moves. So I made up a large board of plywood, and some 3x2s to stiffen it. Also knocked up a couple of iternal MDF templates, so the roof will keep its' shape when the gutter bit removed. Hopefully. Hers a few pics. Again done in 11" sections, to enable me to get it in the folder. That's the offside roof bit, and later and later Same on the back piece, with a little bit of shrinking and stretching, mark it out and stick the new piece in. So I shall continue all the way round. The straighter bits are relatively easy. I am still thinking about going round the corners. The horizontal bt of the gutters is no true at present. When it's all on I will run a scribe round at 11 mm or so, and grind off the excess. Then to actually make the gutter section, with its' folded over edge. I now have a week off work, intendin to get a lot of work done on this, but also some stuff round the house. I could do with a month off. More later peeps
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Last Edit: May 16, 2008 21:37:59 GMT by sidspop
1960 Ford Thames 402e resto 1965 Ford Thames 400e van 5.7 ltr 1965 Ford 100e 2.1 Pinto power
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Looking good Andy,
when you get round to doing the other roof you might want to think about lead loading the channel once it´s welded. Filler is easier but won´t last as long.
How you getting on with the new wheel?
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May 17, 2008 11:01:26 GMT
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I have been having a bit of a practice on some odd bits Dave, readdy for the door skins, I understand the thoughts on lead. Never done i, but I;m sure I could learn. The original had the gutter joints brazed, so I may have to get that done elsewhere
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1960 Ford Thames 402e resto 1965 Ford Thames 400e van 5.7 ltr 1965 Ford 100e 2.1 Pinto power
It all takes time and money, why do I never have them both at the same time?
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May 19, 2008 13:20:27 GMT
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Nice to see you're hitting it head o Andy - good luck with it, it's the complicated parts like that that scare the curse word outta me!
You obviously have a lot more patience than I do ;D
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