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The public transport would need to improve DRAMATICALLY before I could even consider using it....
currently, I have to get a bus from my house, to Milton Keynes or Aylesbury (20 miles) to then get another bus (or train from MK) to Leighton Buzzard (another 20 odd miles) then get a bus or taxi the 5 miles from the bus/train stop to get to my work.... which would take a good hour and a half I reckon easy...
or, I could drive my car the 18 miles.... (which is currently a cheaper option too, dunno for how long though! haha)
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there are no buses to where i work, even though it's an industrial estate with probably 5-6000 employees. everyone has to drive. public transport is abysmal - i live a stones throw (not literally - transport police take a dim view) of a railway line and the station is a short walk... yet there's one train an hour to nottingham and nothing on sundays. the buses run 7 days a week but take nearly an hour to get 20 miles from here to the city, it takes me half that to drive and costs less to park than the bus fare costs. it's not just public transport either. i only live 5 miles from work, perfectly cycleable.... the place i work for is having a major refurb, so i've suggested having a shower installed. it got laughed at. i'm sorry but i'm not going to cycle to work and sit at my bench for 8 hours sweaty and smelly in the summer, or coated in grime in the winter. so driving it is, along with the parking problems at work and the general financial/environmental problems outside of work. on a wider scale, trains and coaches are ridiculously priced to make them viable... i recently went to leeds and it cost £35 - single. that's one not bad train, with a free standing around on sheffield station in the grime and depression, and an hours journey on what is best described as a biscuit-tin on rails. if i'd have taken my car it would have been £15 petrol at most, saving £20. if i did this journey once a week, i'd save £1000 over the year by driving instead of taking the train - enough to pay for my car (£475), the tax (£190), the insurance (£240), servicing, tyres/brakes etc and still have enough left over to get utterly bladdered at christmas ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) plus i'd have been in my own car, with my own music, without having to stand with my head in someone else's armpit for half the journey, listening to the girl stood opposite's adventures the night before. sorry for the rant but i think this country has a very funny idea of how to move people around the place... and not one party has triggered my voting instinct.
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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I do use public transport a bit, but it's an absolute f*cking disgrace and you can't rely on it at all. I often have to go up to Glasgow Royal Infirmary, usually to do with my ankle and other dodgy bits of me, and I used to go by train, but to be honest spending ages waiting for a late, and also filthy dirty and overcrowded train to turn up, then spending about an hour crammed in standing next to neds who want a fight and junkies who need money for a fix, then having to walk (well, limp by the time I get there!) the not inconsiderable distance from the station to the hospital, then do the reverse on the way home again, is not my idea of a good way to spend the day. So I take the Imp mostly these days. And seeing as a few of you have brought up pollution and fuel consumption, I'm still not convinced that my Imp (Imps can manage 40mpg by the way) is more of a threat to the planet than Tony Blair or Two-Jags Prescott's lardy V8-powered long wheelbase XJ8s, which I don't think can manage any more than 20mpg by a long shot.
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"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
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I totally agree with all your comments about public transport, from my experience it’s the worst in Europe, even in poverty-stricken Romania they have a better train service than the English ones. The trains are a bit rattly (!) but they are on time, cheap and frequent. I think the transport system is the worst thing about the UK full stop. If you need to get from A to B, no matter where those two points are you know you are going to get screwed on petrol or ticket costs, and more than likely you are going to be late. Roads, buses, trains, they are all positively 3rd world. RIOT!!!!!!!!
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I pay 40 quid every 4 weeks which gets me from home to work (or just about anywhere in the Newcastle area).
Work is either a 3 minute walk and a 20-25 minute bus journey (one every 15 minutes) or a 8 minute walk and a 15 minute Metro journey (one every 10-20 minutes).
Public transport in Newcastle is pretty rockin'.
I couldn't drive here and pay for a parking space for less than 10/week.
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Well I live 5 mins from the office so I walk to work and Cirencester is a great town for having everything you need close to hand so you can walk around and get most things. The girls walk to school so no school run for us!!
If you ask me people are spoilt by the availability of mobility. People should work nearer home. It would be good for the social fabric of towns and areas of bigger cities.
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This space available to rent. Reach literally dozens of people. Cheap rates!
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trians and buses contribute to more polution per person per mile than cars do the ammount of wasted energy used by trains i fenominal and you only got to get stuck behind a bus to know they can't be good for the enviroment plus 30% of traffic jams on minor roads are caused by buses blocking the roads due to badly thought out stops taxi's are no good because they make 2 trips to do your one trip so no i will continue to use my car thanks its old so mostly recycled puts out less harmfull emisions on startup gets me from door to door in the shortest time and looks good to boot ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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I know I'll regret this. Our buses put out less photo re-active gases than modern (or Retro) motors. Not debatable, we don't curse word around. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) The buses take 50-60 cars off the road. Each. ('Course we do try to keep the stops out of heavy traffic ;D) Our trains are electric. And no, the power isn't from "dirty" generation. We've invested in a wind farm that supplies our share of what we take out of the power grid. ;D Wind powered mass transit. Cool huh? The trains take around 500 cars off the road. Each. And they can't get to were the trains go nearly as quick. So Option 1 Scrap what you've got. Start from scratch Option 2 Rebuild Option 3 Move here. Tell my whiners how good they have it.
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yeah its just not the case hear our public transport works the other way it dirty expencive and causes congestion and always will because the goverment will not spend the money in the right places and the companys the run the transport system are only interested in the profit side of it ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png)
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Last Edit: Apr 7, 2005 21:42:23 GMT by Deleted
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<climbs back on soapbox>
104ZS... work nearer home? If i worked within walking distance of my house i'd be in a factory for minimum wage packing tins of soup. If i worked on a busroute that'd pretty much limit me to working in the city, offices and shirt and tie and all - not my line of work. the only other prospect is multi-buses so to get one bus into nottingham and another out (or the new tram) - adding more expense and a total travelling time of over three hours a day. like i said i do work locally but not walkable, they don't want me to cycle in and there's no buses there. there's another 6000 or so people work in the same place so a bus would pay off but no.....
basically the government collect a healthy amount of tax from us motorists - you've got your £190 a year (or a bit less depending on car) for your tax, then every time we need to fill up.... ker-ching. at the moment that money mostly goes elsewhere in the country, if they bothered to spend it on public transport they'd be shooting themselves in the foot, halve the number of cars on the road and you're billions of pounds a year down.
i do agree that if you live and work in the same place public transport is a breeze - i used to live in sheffield city centre and work just outside, total of 20 minute walk or 5 minute walk and 5 minutes on the tram if it was cold/wet. didn't need a car at all. equally i used to live in norwich city centre, could get anywhere i needed to on a bus so didn't even have a car. but as soon as you slip outside these favoured areas you're stuffed - time to buy a car.
Skocan... that's how it should be, send your whiners over here to experience how it shouldn't!
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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