marksparks999
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Mar 16, 2009 18:03:47 GMT
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Just been reading through the whole of this thread and it makes interesting reading. Firstly the filth simply do not care..... full stop. a sweeping generalisation... I am an active member on many forums, and I specialise in Vehicle Investigations... ie identifying property and getting it returned to the rightful owner! thats statement is like saying all boy/girl racers and modded motor owners are irresponsible... there are good and bad in every walk of life.. so don't generalise!
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piperfish
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Mar 18, 2009 17:07:45 GMT
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Fair comment mate
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Its my snake...I trained it...and I'm gonna eat it....
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Apr 13, 2009 15:26:07 GMT
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Interesting reading, here... I'll be honest, nobody seems to get their cars nicked around here, but if I went down south, I'd leave it with the battery D/C'd, krooklock on and the clutch pedal chained onto the steering column. The girlfriends father just got his bike stolen from outside a police station, they knew nothing about it! I believe the phrase they used was 'We'll get someone to look into it.' Choice of car is key, too! Explain to me who would go to the trouble of bringing a Hi-Ab down to pinch a nice but worthless Hillman, it's not worth a sausage in parts, either! ;D There's a reason why I don't drive fords! Oh, the 'armaplate' lock covers work wonders, if you can stand that fixed to your door. Security lighting at home works and is proven! And, nobody in their right mind would break into your car to steal your ratty old Radiomobile set, hide the CD player in the glovebox. Good luck with the crime prevention...
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I think an alarm and immobiliser is definitely the way to go, as long as you fit a good quality alarm by someone who knows what they are doing. I wouldn't use anything by Rover as a benchmark. The one in my mates 100 kept going wrong and the guy at the little garage down the road was able to disable it permanently.
I've got a Toad Ai606 in my Delica, it doesn't go off all the time (except when I shorted the bonnet pin by mistake). You can have glass break, proximity sensors and other funky stuff so that if they even *think* about nicking it, you'll know.
It doesn't matter if other people ignore the alarm, if someone takes it from your drive, your more likely to go look if you hear your own alarm.
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Last Edit: Apr 25, 2009 7:04:41 GMT by Soopahfly
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marksparks999
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from a professional/crime prevention point of view...
1. if you have a garage use it 2. if you have off road parking/ and a gate use it 3. park in a well lit area/connect a security light (i know a pain in the @r5e when next doors cat keeps setting it off) 4. fit an alrm, the best quality you can afford 5. fit an electronic immobiler (that has dual circuit cut off) 6. use a physical deterrent - crook lock/security post etc
and yes i know these all cost money... but unfortunately if you don't protect your property some one else will take advantage... and as unemployment risies and the price of scrap metal increases its easy money for the unscrupulous out there!
anyone one wants to pm me please feel free.
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redgt2
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Jul 13, 2009 23:08:06 GMT
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vehicle theft in general needs nippin in the bud with help....
why did HPI cost 25 quid before 3 quid text number came in..ppl buyin didnt use it always at that price Trackers..sell em for a lot less..insurance incentive gift/govt subsidy..so everyone can afford/have them..and then arm more cops with tracker findin eqpt cap the price of scrap metal so its not worth nickin stuff shut down any business/licencee/race meet/track day/scrap yard that is found with stolen vehicle on premises within an hour! specialized press to hassle authorities and then work with them to get something done about this ...seem to remember mcn havin this approach in 90's when bike theft was gettin stupid build affordable houses with garages that cars can fit in to every police station has a vehicle only theft squad to concentate on it and turn around their cant be bothered/not interested/overwhelmed attitude dish out a punishment to those caught so they would be less likely to do it again ban the sale of hi abs, bolt cutters, oxycetelene torches to those who can't prove they need them legitimately cctv don't i.d hoodie brigade
browsing through this stolen board i really "felt" for the two who had their green mk1 and black mk2 escorts nicked.....that is a right curse word of a crime that must rape the mind cos of the sort of cars they are.....
very substantial ground anchor is a good idea...car must be getting nicked if a big slab of metal and concrete comes up as well can someone not invent a "blue dye explosion" inside car 5 mins after its driven or lifted off by thief with all this modern technology, even if it would be a pain to clean up.. and as someone said..an alarm that makes a different noise to a siren..i.e HELP,THIS VEHICLE IS BEING STOLEN!!..someone would phone the rozzers then i'm sure Triumph bikes advertised the speed triple with a chained up Rottweiler next to it...just make sure the chain is long enough
if this country had decent ppl in it like the majority why would you need any of the above to protect your property from freeloading thieves i did read somewhere once though that if there are 7 of you in a room..one of you is going to be nickin of the others...cos s/he is a f**kin THIEF!!
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marksparks999
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Jul 14, 2009 16:12:36 GMT
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every police station has a vehicle only theft squad to concentate on it and turn around their cant be bothered/not interested/overwhelmed attitude
you have a very negative attitude about the police... you obviously don't know any?
I exclusivley deal with 'Vehicle Investigations' and have to say the work my colleagues put in is generally exemplary!
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redgt2
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Jul 14, 2009 22:13:32 GMT
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sorry mark that statement is a generalisation of how i feel the public feels about police responding to vehicle crime..not my own view..but a view which is stated many times on car forums and generally when someone has had a car nicked
i know quite a few cops and my work brings me in contact with cops professionally from time to time so i know what some of you chaps have to say on the subject.....
i should have used the word, image, instead of attitude which would have made it sound more how i meant...
statistics, paperwork, drunken and unsocial behaviour,fights, timewasters etc all takes the time of the police up ,we know, but like social workers need to change to help prevent kids gettin abused by the bad'uns why can't police have teams at a local level to gather the intelligence and show concern to the public and act on the crime ...
are vehicle investigation units not locked away at HQ and only come out for a "sting"?..not critisizing their work at all...just how the crime is dealt with when reported..or not dealt with in some cases..
all the public see is the tax payers getting done for speedin and its getting on our nerves.if someone is doing 120 on the empty motorway on a taxed and insured motorbike or car at 2am comin back from a nightshift why are they getting banged up in prison when car thieves walk free or get off ridiculously lightly like with a fine.......?
like with a lot of problems in this country if the govt/CPS/courts acted more reasonably lots of crimes could be more reduced...police are stuck in the middle cos..you get govt directives and have to act on them from your superiors if you like it or not...so the negative attitude was aimed at authorities higher than the police but i understand why you picked out that sentence...
quick example to quantify what i mean but its not car related...
my girlfriend witnessed two lads getting beaten badly in an unprovoked attacked by drunken youths....
she called cops who were there within 2 mins, broke up fight, arrested two perpetrators, stopped two victims getting more hurt/maimed or even killed these days...
she gives statement to police cos she is an independant witness and is prepared to go court
CPS says there isnt enough to go on and drops case.....perpartrators are laughin and will do it again....they don't work and have plenty of the same form with the police but also car crime form...
now you see who I'm criticizing....
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marksparks999
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no problem buddy... i am too thick skinned to take things personally, and i do understand the public perception and feelings of desperation that they have from time to time.
Are we locked in HQ, not me... but i am one of a handful only!
Educating vehicle owners is part of my remit, i deal with cloned, stolen, burned out, vehicles all the time, it helps i have a passionate interest in the older motors, which often leads to finds for others! And owners happy to get a new home and decent price for grandads old jaloppy thats been in the garage since 1972 when he passed away?
As an 'retro-car' owner as you will see from my sig, i am all too aware of how vulnerable they are, mine stays tucked away in its nice warm garage, parked behind two other modern monstrosities to prevent its removal!
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Jul 15, 2009 13:48:42 GMT
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People blame the police but its the courts which let criminals walk away day in, day out. I've done jury service and I've worked in a criminal law practice. I've seen it first hand. The cops do good work catching bad guys and the then the courts send them on their merry way on a technicality. But then if you or I were arrested for any reason we'd soon be shouting for our "rights" so I kinda see both sides of the arguement. Nobody wants to see innocent people get sent to jail but likewise nobody wants to see innocent people have their cars nicked.
Point of this thread should be about ideas to prevent our cars getting nicked which we can do, not a moaning shop about the police or the courts or the parents or "kids these days".
Marksparks999 makes some good points. mostly common sense but doesn't hurt to say it again. Common sense isn't that common.
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Last Edit: Jul 15, 2009 13:50:21 GMT by akku
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personally , i don't blame the police for the trouble. Its the courts as said that don't finish the job. The police as a whole put alot of hours into making the country a safer place for us and our belongings. And they have a very tough job considering some of the people that are allowed to walk the streets and the red tape surrounding nearly every aspect of there work it seems. Simple fact is , crime has been there forever, its our job to protect ourselves and our belongings in any way we can. (within the law obviously as the courts love that one) I just hope that parlament get round to realising we need less of this namby pamby health and safety bullcrap and more cops. Spend less on hiring hippies to talk nonscence all day and spend that money on more bobbies
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bazzateer
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Jul 29, 2009 18:24:12 GMT
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The average copper likes nothing more than nicking the little sh1ts who steal and vandalise the property of the majority law abiding public. As stated all the good work they do can be thrown away by namby pamby courts full of do-gooders looking after the defendants human rights etc. Anyone seen The Star Chamber? Great film.
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don't the police batter the hell out of the suspects any more?
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marksparks999
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Jul 30, 2009 16:47:26 GMT
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No sorry... The Gene Hunt training manual was discontinued circa 1984 with the introduction of PACE. Of course for Datsun thieves... exceptions could be made?
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bazzateer
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Aug 30, 2009 16:18:30 GMT
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don't the police batter the hell out of the suspects any more? No, of course not. That would be against their rights, and the law...........................apparently..................................
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