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Looking really well now great progress. I wondered why you had gone for only part removal of the spare wheel well as i have always favoured full removal for a centre exit exhaust (as you can get the exhaust up and out of the way), however i suppose the bit you have left will give you something to mount to.
Paint looks good too.
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dtvracing
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I no where your coming from, i sort of overlooked this when doing the spare wheel well but a centre exit is not a definate as of yet, if it mounts to low i will go for normal passenger side exit. I kept a part of the wheel well as it was easier to plate the well as plate a full floor and keeps the spare wheel that we bit lower for centre of gravity. Thats my theory if you get me
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I love these, they have the "hooligan" look about them straight from the factory!
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Jan 23, 2012 18:26:25 GMT
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Bit of progress, have the egnine bay painted. Enjoy
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I love these, they have the "hooligan" look about them straight from the factory!
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Jan 23, 2012 20:11:45 GMT
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You really are doing a proper job - nice work
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Jan 23, 2012 21:24:29 GMT
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To all who read this and consider building a cage for their car. THIS IS THE PROPER WAY TO DO IT
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1994 Rover Metro 1994 Peugeot 405 Estate 1991 Rover Metro Gti 16v 2001 Fiat Seicento Sporting 1999 Fiat Punto 1.2 1994 Peugeot 106 Xnd (x3) 1991 Westfield 7 2004 Landrover 110 SW 2003 Seat Ibiza 1.9Tdi Sport 1959 Ford 107e Prefect 1992 Suzuki Vitara 2008 Skoda Fabia
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Jan 23, 2012 22:29:44 GMT
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I love these, they have the "hooligan" look about them straight from the factory!
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Love your work. This is looking exceptional & nice to see a man doing it right first time and not cutting corners. These are very cool little cars and you don't see them in New Zealand. Artic white is the colour I'm doing my Herald so I look forward to seeing the finished car in all it's glory. Not sad working New Years- just focused & dedicated.
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Really nice to see such a thorough job being done on prep work.
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Jan 24, 2012 12:55:12 GMT
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I admit that I thought this was going to be a rubbish thread - but wow! You're doing an absolutely cracking job. Much respect is due...
You haven't said where you are but I suspect the British reg says you're not in Ireland. So... if you're going to do Nav Rallies, I assume you mean 12 cars. As a bit of advice, if you're going 12 car-ing you'll soon end up doing full blown Navigational Road Rallies. That means your car must be: - one colour - NO stickers - full interior (or something that looks like it) - maximum of 2 carb chokes or fuel injection, so that means twin 40s are a no no (although you can go 2 litre 16v) This might save you a bit of work in the future!!!
A bit more description of Navigation Rallies then...
- Public road based. - You follow a fixed route - but you don't know it beforehand. The route is provided to you on the way and your navigator needs to decode ('plot') it on OS maps as you go along. - Timing is capped at 30mph average. This sounds slow, but trust me it isn't when a) you don't know the route and b) you're on a barely surfaced woodland track or threading your way around a field. Much of the time you're going as fast as you can. - Events run at night (for safety reasons - remember the roads aren't closed). You need good lights - but these are tightly controlled by the regs. - The sport is called 'Road Rallying' or 'Navigational Road Rallying'. It's controlled by the MSA and you need a competion license (£37) and to be the member of an MSA approved motor club (tenner?), plus insurance. Road rallies can have up to 90 cars competing, but there's a version called 12 Cars which are the same but smaller and slightly watered-down. This is where everyone starts. - There are maybe 100 events per year over England / Wales. Most are in Wales or Derbyshire / Yorkshire. Wales is the heartland, and events there are a bit more hard-core. You might find the occasional daylight event in Wales, but these will be all forest.
I've been doing 12 cars and Road Rallies for 20 years and have done hundreds. I also have a Nova GTE road rally car!!!
It's a great sport!
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Jan 24, 2012 13:08:18 GMT
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On the subject of insurance, it's actually quite cheap through the likes of Competition Car Insurance or Richard Egger or David Auden. I paid about £150 for a year's policy last time. They will be very very keen to know that you're a bona fide competitor though; get a license and join an appropriate club before you get the policy!
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Jan 24, 2012 13:48:45 GMT
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^agreed with the bluebook stuff above, worth keeping track of it if you are building a car for road rallying. The interior only needs to be there up to and including the back seats... and you're allowed to cut doorcards for cage fitting etc - basically it just means you need to stick a rear seat in there for road rallies. However if you're creative then this won't spoil the look of the car. Mine has the back immediately behind the bucket seats and the base has been gutted to allow it to fit "over" the spare wheel post in the centre of the car with the wheel on top of it if you get my drift. I put the wheel post as close behind the seats as possible because in peugeots the back end pogos awfully if you put a lot of weight in the back and go over the bumpy stuff! Either way, this build is far above the quality of my abused 106 rallye!!! Great job and look forward to seeing more pics!
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Jan 24, 2012 13:49:08 GMT
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..... These are very cool little cars and you don't see them in New Zealand. ... I'd always assumed that the Holden Barina Mk3 (ie Corsa B) as available in Australia and presumably NZ would have been preceeded by a Corsa A - ie Nova. Having Google'd it, I see that the predecessor to the Barina (Corsa) was of course... a Suzuki Swift!!! How's that for a disjointed family relationship!
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Jan 24, 2012 16:46:12 GMT
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Great work as said before. Makes me wish i had more space to get on with my nova!
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Jan 24, 2012 20:26:24 GMT
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THanks everyone for the replies, greatly appreciated. And thank you robg2 for your detailed description on nav rallying. I'm from Northern Ireland so Britsh rules will apply. That is a bit worrying about the carb set up. Why is there a limit on intake modifications? And for the interior, a friend of mine runs a we starlet and has his rear seat removed. If push came to shuv i dare say i could mock up some kind of rear seat i guess. Thanks again for the input, has been a few emails sent enquiring on this and a bit of head scratching done.
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I love these, they have the "hooligan" look about them straight from the factory!
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Jan 24, 2012 21:34:56 GMT
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Anything that looks like a rear seat will suffice! No-one needs to sit on it.
I'll add a bit more detail tomorrow.
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Jan 26, 2012 17:46:06 GMT
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For road rallying:
Must have:
no more than 4 cylinders no more than 2 carb chokes no more than 4 forward facing beams (ie 2 spotlights on a Nova, and their size is limited and they can't be gas discharge*, and no lamp-pods) must pass noise test, which is fairly low must have full interior (except for interior of boot) - that means it looks like a full interior, doesn't actually have to be the OE stuff must be one colour and no stickers* must not have wheel arch extensions or spoilers or roof vents etc* must not have a vertical handbrake must have 2 throttle return springs 4x4 and forced induction are not allowed on most events
(* = unless it left the factory like that)
...you can run a completely standard car if you like.
You will want to have: bucket seats and harnesses; rollcage if you feel the need sumpguard and tank guard unless you're only doing smooth events two spare wheels on board everything fixed down nicely a jack you can use in the dark a few spare wheelbolts in the car a tripmeter is useful - something like a Brantz hydraulic handbrake, although standard Nova setups are ok lots of door pockets and map pockets inside good lighting inside - a couple of striplights is ideal good lighting under the bonnet a good heater / demister a good reversing light
You are allowed: wheels and tyres are free I think, but don't run anything like 17"s!!! brakes are free LSD straight cut box, although this might get banned eventually plastic windows power steering
The car regs are all about not upsetting people that live on the route. So cars need to be fairly quiet and not look like race cars. Road rallies are very public relations sensitive, and numerous event have been stopped from running because of complaints. It's a big issue, and event organisers are very sensitive to it at the moment.
Road rallying isn't generally about out-and-out speed; it's a bit more of a technical challenge and you need to be in a car that you can easily hussle along briskly. You don't want something that wants to spit you off at every corner. So I wouldn't go for a very peaky engine / very aggressive diff / very hard suspension. Your navigator also needs to be comfortable and feel safe!!!
Novas are a good choice as they're small (helps), have decent wheel travel, can be quick, are robust - more than some cars certainly.
Old hot hatches are always a popular choice, as are Escorts. There are plenty of newer things about too like Protons (using Evo bits) and Rover 200s (sub 1400, therefore eligable for Enduro regs). Unlikely cars are always common too - you'd be surprised what people turn up in!
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Jan 29, 2012 22:32:30 GMT
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Thank robg2 for your input, you definately have looked into this in a big way. i contacted the northern ireland navigation rally administrator to just check about a few point to do with car set up. As was stated sponsor stickers are not allowed, i am allowed to run 40s and a back seat is not required which is a bit of a relief. Reguations must be different a bit compared to England so i will keep these in mind if i ever plan to visit england or wales to compete (show you men how its done )
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I love these, they have the "hooligan" look about them straight from the factory!
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Jan 30, 2012 16:45:32 GMT
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Maybe NI is more influenced by (Southern) Irish regs then - it's all a bit more liberal over there.
It's quite common for folks to come across the water to do Welsh events - particularly for historics.
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Jan 31, 2012 21:16:03 GMT
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I will definately look into doing a few events in the future, just try and get this bucket finished first.. Finally after a bit more rubbing i blew some of my top coat paint onto the shell tonight, everything was going great then while leaning over the roof i smudged my leg on the drivers quarter. A few muffled capital letters where shouted through my mask.... Have to let her dry and give her a flat back and start all over again but sure thats the fun of it. Mercedes artic white. Enjoy nova porn
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I love these, they have the "hooligan" look about them straight from the factory!
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Jan 31, 2012 21:29:28 GMT
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If this is your first go at painting like that then you should be very happy! Great results!
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