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Sept 8, 2006 14:50:52 GMT
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Gentlemen, buy them while they are still cheap. My tip for "investment" is the Vauxhall Calibra.
For why? You ask...
Well it struck me that just now they have so many parallels to the Ford Capri of the mid 1990s...
Its a Sporty Coupe, its actually quite a nice shape, it was phenominally popular when new, it got rave reviews and theres a good range of models from a bare bones 2.0 up to a V6 and turbo 4x4. And lets not forget that the Turbo 4x4 version could give a cossie or a scooby a run for its money, until the transfer case blew up at least. And they are fearsome aerofriendly...
But right now they are seen as chavmobiles. Theres loads of horribly modduh'd ones about and the very name "Calibra" is a byword for "tacky".
Just like the Capri was....
I'd like to bet 2p that in years to come we'll be wondering why we never had one when they were still cheap as good 4x4 Turbos are selling for daft money and even a "regular" V6 costs a couple of grand in nice nick.
So ladies and gents, I presnt, my retro prediction for the future - the Vauxhall Calibra.
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Sept 8, 2006 14:59:37 GMT
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A great source of engines. But otherwise horrible IMO
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bstardchild
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Sept 8, 2006 15:01:09 GMT
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A great source of engines. But otherwise horrible IMO Interiors go in a Commodore Otherwise horrid - but I do agree soon they will increase in value
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Davenger
Club Retro Rides Member
It's only metal
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Coming-soon-Retr0 = Calibra...Davenger
@dminifreak
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Sept 8, 2006 15:08:12 GMT
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And finding one without rotten rear arches will be a challenge and a half
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Sept 8, 2006 15:08:20 GMT
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Yup,.. these comments sound like the same levelled at the Capri... Interesting nomination as future retro fodder.
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Sept 8, 2006 15:18:13 GMT
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Two things stopping me liking them at the moment: 1 - Its relation to the Mk3 Chavalier 2 - The afforementioned nastily "modded" ones around. There's a hideous lavender coloured on a few streets from me with Lex-ar$e lights and a shopping list down the wing. Vomit-inducing.
But I agree, the parallels with the Capri's image are definitely there! Don't know what they drive like, but they probably perform better than a Capri ;D
By the same token, will the Ford Probe achieve such status? Or will it be a slightly poorer relation? *strokes chin in thought*
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Seth
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Sept 8, 2006 15:19:25 GMT
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I can see where you're coming from AK. More than likely will start turning up at classic shows in around 2015 I reckon. I've fancied building a Calibra with a Cambridge roof just to park it next to my mates inverse one at a show....
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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Sept 8, 2006 15:31:36 GMT
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Two things stopping me liking them at the moment: 1 - Its relation to the Mk3 Chavalier 2 - The afforementioned nastily "modded" ones around. There's a hideous lavender coloured on a few streets from me with Lex-ar$e lights and a shopping list down the wing. Vomit-inducing. But I agree, the parallels with the Capri's image are definitely there! Don't know what they drive like, but they probably perform better than a Capri ;D By the same token, will the Ford Probe achieve such status? Or will it be a slightly poorer relation? *strokes chin in thought* 1. Capri- shares mainly escort and cortina parts. 2. There used to plenty of p1ss poor crapi`s kicking around as well. I agree it will probably become a classic, but with it being a vauxhall I don't think it will ever become worth that much. All you need to do is compare any VX car against an equivalent blue oval. I have never seen any chevette other than a genuine HS/R fetch much above £2000 no matter whats been done to it. Try to get an standard solid 2 door escort for the same money. I really don't think they will be worth it
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Sept 8, 2006 15:49:46 GMT
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Calibra = Cavalier with an awful new body and shocking build quality. Drove on once, when I slammed the door I thought the door panel was coming off in my hand, and it sounded like it was made of tin foil!
Blueeeerghhh!!!!!
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Sept 8, 2006 15:54:44 GMT
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Does the Calibra drive the back wheels or the front ones?
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Sept 8, 2006 15:58:06 GMT
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Front.
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K5
Part of things
Drives Vauxhall Ampera and Kadett E GT and sometimes camp out in our 1988 Classic Hymer
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Sept 8, 2006 16:07:09 GMT
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Have to agree with this topic. I had 2 of them and belonged to Club Calibra. They are favoured by chavs at the moment. But their time will come. As for build quality well both mine were well screwed together well and had no real problems. Gorgeous slippery shape, easy to work on and a wide variety of engines. Loads of German stuff for them now as well. Classic car mags are already talking about them. TX boxes can now be locked, after that there do not seem to be any problems with them. I knew a Dutch guy that had a 3.2 putting out 500bhp. Put big wheels on and slam and cage it.
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Last Edit: Sept 9, 2006 11:24:15 GMT by K5
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Sept 8, 2006 17:00:09 GMT
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I think this is a sensible tip for the future. After all, lets not forget that the Capri (once loved by the nation) went through a seriously unbecoming 'barry' period as well. Now they are popular once again and sadly becoming rarer due to the neglect and ill-treatment they received. Many cars destined to be 'future classics' go through this 'popularity trough' ... look at the Mk2 Escort. I have to say that, unlike the Capri, they arent to my taste but there is a degree of similarity between the Calibra and the Corrado (which I do like) in that they are now being widely accepted as a 'sure thing' for the future.
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Last Edit: Sept 8, 2006 17:01:57 GMT by superden
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Sept 8, 2006 17:03:33 GMT
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(comes out of closet) i quite like them, especially in the dark green with dark rims(goes back in) ;D
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"quote hairnet"
I'm not paying nine pound for a pi$$!
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BenW
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Sept 8, 2006 17:20:43 GMT
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Have to agree with this topic. I had 2 of them and belonged to Club Calibra. They are Chavvy at the momnent. But their time will come. As for build quality well both mine were well screwed together well and had no real problems. Gorgeous slippery shape, easy to work on and a wide variety of engines. Loads of German stuff for them now as well. Classic car mags are already talking about them. TX boxes can now be locked, after that there do not seem to be any problems with them. I knew a Dutch guy that had a 3.2 putting out 500bhp. Put big wheels on and slam and cage it. Yep, what he said I've had 2 myself, very competent motors but I do agree they have a major image problem these days. Their time will come!
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Mk1 Triumph 2000
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Sept 8, 2006 17:26:11 GMT
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Yeah, Vauxhalls never seem to get the same value as Fords, but I don;t see the Probe ever being much - they weren't popular enough when new. I think the Ford v. Vauxhall thing will die out a bit in coming generations. It will be much more Euro vs Asian. Everything you can say against the Calibra was said against the Capri. Often to my face! I was also thinking about the Corrado when I wrote this post. I have to confess this post comes from having seen a really clean original un-molested one on the road and thinking "actually, they were quite nice cars in their day..." Thats how it starts... FWD/4WD for the Calibra. But non-RWD hasn't stopped a lot of classics getting the status. Alfasud, Mini, oh I'm sure theres others!
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Ed
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Sept 8, 2006 17:33:14 GMT
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Everything you can say against the Calibra was said against the Capri. Often to my face! I was also thinking about the Corrado when I wrote this post. FWD/4WD for the Calibra. But non-RWD hasn't stopped a lot of classics getting the status. Alfasud, Mini, oh I'm sure theres others! more than likely it will be one of the sort after retro classics to come. same as the corrado, or most late 80s early 90s coupes.... funny how blinkered some people are though
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Sept 8, 2006 17:37:07 GMT
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Yeah, Vauxhalls never seem to get the same value as Fords, but I don;t see the Probe ever being much - they weren't popular enough when new. I think the Ford v. Vauxhall thing will die out a bit in coming generations. It will be much more Euro vs Asian. Slightly OT, but I never understood the Ford vs Vauxhall vs VW rivalry at all. As a young 'un I wanted (and still do want) a Mk2 Escort, a Mk1 Golf GTI and a Vauxhall Chevette HS ! Despite my deep rooted interest in many manufacturers/models, the underlying egotism and narrow minded attitudes are why I have never really had any interest in 'one make' owners clubs, or becoming part of any particular 'scene' and I think thats why I enjoy this forum so much, albeit quietly ! As for the Ford Probe, its wasnt excessively BAD ... it just wasnt particularly GOOD. It never looked right, it wasnt inspiring to drive (though it was competent on the road) and curiously, always looked like it belonged on the set of RoboCop. Not entirely a bad thing, after all RoboCop had police cars liberally coated in matt paint ...
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Last Edit: Sept 8, 2006 17:39:56 GMT by superden
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Sept 8, 2006 17:45:08 GMT
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I was looking at a Probe in the works car park today and thought "from some angles, thats not bad, could be worked with..."
I think I'm ill
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Sept 8, 2006 17:50:39 GMT
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I was looking at a Probe in the works car park today and thought "from some angles, thats not bad, could be worked with..." I think I'm ill I think the problem with the Probe was/is, that its ... well, featureless to look at. Nothing stands out, its like a huge automotive Ryvita.
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Last Edit: Sept 8, 2006 17:52:48 GMT by superden
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