wooden garge plans

[Autofive]

iam going to build a wooden garage, has anyone got any plans they could post up?

its mainly the roof trusses that iam unsure about

[richardjn]

i work at an architects so can email u some pdfs. of ones we have used in the past.

But wouldnt u be better off just going to a builders merchants or summat; i think some will design them for you.

Wots the span and height reqd?

Rich

[Autofive]

Iam looking to build a 16 X 9ft garage with 7ft door opening , probably 2ft rise on the roof - i have found some plans on the wibbly wobbly web, but none show the roof trusses with angles etc

[Deleted]

If you've got the skillzorz you could do a steel frame

[Autofive]

iam going to use 4X4, and some 3X3 for the frame (as i already have all the pressure treated timber)) - but may need a metal framework for the roof to cut down on the weight

[Ratdat]

My shed is made from mostly 6x2 with a bit of 2x2 inbetween. I made the roof trusses from 6x2 at an angle of 22 degrees and the span is 24 foot. Trusses are at 4 foot intervals. I have a centre ridge beam running front to back which is 9x4 though!

[Autofive]

thanks for the figures, dually noted

[richardjn]

usually at work we have trusses @ 400 centres (but sometimes that is for stone roofs)

what are you using to cover it?

[stinkwheel]

Whats the score with planning and regs on timber buildings?

[usedabused]

Timber structures are temporay so you do not need planning unless it blokes other light.

Roof trusses can be bought dorect via your local builders merchant.

You just need to give em hight ect.......

[richardjn]

usedabused; ur right about timber trusses being available from the local builders merchant, but the buildings still require planning permissions in the following conditions


- Any building or structure between the 'original house' and the 'highway' unless there would remain at least 20 metres between the new building/structure and any highway.
- More than half the area of land around the 'original house' would be covered by additions or other buildings.
- The building/structure is to be used for non-domestic purposes.
- Where the building to be constructed or provided would have a cubic content greater than 10 cubic metres, any part of it would be within 5 metres of any part of the dwellinghouse; see also volume .
- The building/structure is to be more than 3metres high (4m if it has a ridged roof).
- The building/structure is to have a volume more than 10m³ within the grounds of a Listed Building.

Rich

[Paul H]

Isn't it also best to get in writing from the council that a structure doesn't need permission, so that they can't play silly buggers later?

[spottedlaurel]

amazonsprite said:

Isn't it also best to get in writing from the council that a structure doesn't need permission, so that they can't play silly buggers later?

Yes, but they take frikkin' ages. Almost as long as a proper Planning Application would have taken.

[richardjn]

yeah too right spotted laurel! we have to do a panel of stonework on each listed house we work on to be approved and we have had work held up cos they are too busy too come and inspect!

Rich

[wagoneer]

I built my workshop/office using 2x2 stud walls, built on the floor, covered externally by 18mm exterior grade ply. We then hoiked them up vertical and covered the outside with roofing felt, then overclad with 6" shiplap timber on battens. The roof is as suggested, 6x2 rafters that sit on top of the walls with 18mm ply roof and two part felt cover. Inside the workshop was insulated with rockwool and plasterboarded with that foil covered board. The office part has insulation in a raised concreted floor as well. Nice and cosy!

The doors of the workshop were made as tri-folds by hinging together Z framed doors from B&Q. It's not long enough for a car as I divided it to make the office bit but makes a great workshop. I'm certainly no architect, but the idea is simple and easy to do so have a crack yourself.

I avoided the need for planning as it fits within the footprint of the original concrete garage structure, which was good as it saved me a few hundred quid!

[akku]

planning:

Check your planning regs as they can force you to take down a temporary building if it contravenes regs.

Its easy. Just submit an application to the planning office, easy to draw up, doesn't have to be in scale, just mark the key dimensions. They will then write back to you in about a week telling you that no planning premission is needed and whther you need building regs or not. If it needs building regs you can still get started prettymuch but will need to submit scale plans and they will want to come inspect it during and after construction. This only takes a couple of weeks to sort out.

So long as your proposed garage does not cover more than like 50% of your garden and does not come forward of the front of your existing houuse you will not need planning permission.

If your building is within 1 metre of any property boundary you will likely need building regs. They will insist on proper fireproofing of any timber building. This would be something like Nullifire coating ( a flame retardent varnish) on the outside and fireboard on the inside.

My garage has been up a year now and I still haven't had the final inspection as I'm too skint to buy the Nullifire or get an electrician in to certify my wiring (needed under new wiring regulations if you do your own).

Don't pee off the planning department.

It costs nothing to submit outline plans.

[Dorset_Clive]

Things might have changed in the last 10 yrs, but here in Dorset, you didn't need planning permission for any additional building as long as it was less than 50m3. So, as I'd asked for outline planning permisson on a sun lounge that was 50.1m3, the Planning Office suggested I revisit the plans - a quick change and about 3cm less height bought the it down to ~49.8m3...no planning permisson needed

However, a few years later, when I wanted to build a large shed, I did need PP as I'd "used" my 50m3 "allowance" with the sun lounge.

As has been said, generally the Planning Office are really helpful...and don't p!ss them off!!!

[akku]

the rules are complicated, and considering initial application is free and knowing the problems people can get into with neighbours complaints and the like its so much better to have a piece of paper whic is a letter back from the PO saying you don't need PP.

You will need this when you come to sell the house as well. I knocked down an extension at my old house and had it rebuilt. WHen I sold the house the buyers solictor was all over my ass asking where my planning was for it, I had none because when I phoned the planning office they said like for like did not need planning. But did I have a record of this? Nope. The buyers sollicitor tried to force me to get retrosp[ective planning consent. In the middle of a chain... nice. Not what I needed. One bleedin letter would have solved that.