LowStandards
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Oct 23, 2006 15:11:56 GMT
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There's been much talk recently about banded wheels in one of the Readers Rides threads.
Is there actually any document that says there illegal? I cant find owt on the dvla or vosa websites. Does the MOT handbook thing say otherwise?
Basically can anyone find me any documentation telling me in cast iron there illegal?
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Oct 23, 2006 15:14:39 GMT
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We had this discussion on VZi and IIRC decided that no, there isn't. I think the conclusion by right thinkers was make sure they are done properly and to factory standards  |
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LowStandards
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Oct 23, 2006 15:18:15 GMT
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Didn't think there was, just wondering about a legal stance say if i crashed whilst running a set?
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Oct 23, 2006 15:20:48 GMT
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I have been told so many times, and by people I trust to know what they are talking about that these are illegal that it has settled in my mind as a fact. However, I have never seen any refference to why, how, where, when, what, other than it was "some time inthe 1970s".
Of course, there doesn't need to be a specific law against them. If they are done badly, or rusting apart they would consitute a "dangerous part" and thats 3 points and a fairly hefty fine. If you got stopped and they were spotted. lets be straight here, if they are in a dangerous condition they shouldn't be on the car.
However, I cannot think of a reason why they should be any more dangerous than re-rimmed or even split rim wheels, assuming they are done properly.
I think this has come about because back in the day they were common and a lot of them would have been bodged up and failed or never ballanced up right and some folks would have been got for "dangerous parts".
Also back in the day of the engineers report on all modified cars (1980s) there was a section where you had to declare if the vehicle had banded roadwheels and this often lead to a "we cannot offer a premium on this vehicle at the current time" letter.
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Oct 23, 2006 17:02:12 GMT
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I thought it was actually late 80`s or early 90`s.
I thought the ban started from rallying due to a few accidents. Would need to check the MSA blue book but I am pretty sure they are banned from all forms of rallying and scrutineers will check this.
They are no problems running them for autotesting, or other events that do not use public roads.
And unless it specifically said so your insurance would not cover them in the event of an accident, but thats probably the same for re-rimming.
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JC
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Stupid Question Time: what exactly are banded steels? i'm assuming steel wheels that have been modified in some way?
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They are widened by adding a band of steel in them. As the name suggests
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Asked my MOT tester about this...
His thoughts are, he wouldn't pass a car with them on.
Rim inadequate for rubber.
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The lurker formerly known as Cappuccinocruiser.. or wedgedout..
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Asked my MOT tester about this... His thoughts are, he wouldn't pass a car with them on. Rim inadequate for rubber. i could see that being the case for streched rubber,but how does it work if the tyres are the correct size for the rim, i.e. 185/60 ona 6inch width? |
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Asked my MOT tester about this... His thoughts are, he wouldn't pass a car with them on. Rim inadequate for rubber. i could see that being the case for streched rubber,but how does it work if the tyres are the correct size for the rim, i.e. 185/60 ona 6inch width? Cos a "banded" wheel can be argued as unsafe for use with any rubber. that was his argument anyway. |
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Nathan
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Banded Steels - Legal???Nathan
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How can you tell if the rubber covers them?
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JC
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They are widened by adding a band of steel in them. As the name suggests thought so, did say it was a stupid question! |
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Oct 24, 2006 10:16:51 GMT
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How can you tell if the rubber covers them? that's what makes it a grey area. There are so many shoddy ones out there, that even a hint of what appears to be a banded wheel will fail at his station. That's not to say all testers have that viewpoint. He rekons passing them is more than his job is worth, and if someone wants to contest, that's fine, but when something is left to his descretion, such as a "damaged wheel" he'd fail a band every time. People will argue day and night that you can "hide" the fact a wheel is banded, but you're not looking into the problems.... there were loads of banded's floating around at one time. Some were good, well made, others shoddy and dangerous. Thing is, with rubber on, how do you tell  |
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