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Oct 29, 2012 20:56:19 GMT
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My Patrol has locking wheel nuts but no key. I'm looking at buying a set of removal tools, but there are quite a few to choose from. I tried Halfords but their set of two are too big for this particular job. My Irwin Bolt Removers have been one of the most useful tools I've ever bought, but I don't think they will be deep enough to go onto wheelnuts. Anyone have any experiences, good or bad?  |
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Oct 29, 2012 21:06:24 GMT
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I've always found an old socket, slightly smaller than the nut hammered on works brilliant.
If it has a coller (sp) that spins so you can't hammer it on, you can ususlly prise them off with a screwdriver.
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Oct 29, 2012 21:09:48 GMT
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Usual steps are:
Hammer a socket over it, if that slips hammer a slightly smaller one.
If that doesn't work weld a nut on the end.
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bl1300
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Oct 29, 2012 21:18:26 GMT
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Your local tyre fitters will be able to remove them for you without too much issue. Mine have a special tool for the job which uses a set of toothed disposable rollers. They normally get them off in seconds.
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Oct 29, 2012 22:24:04 GMT
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Thanks for the replies. I was going to avoid the old "hammering an old socket over it" trick as I'm not that convinced that the old sockets I have would stand up to doing four wheelnuts without splitting.
Also, I'm thinking that the tools would be useful for removing other larger nuts and bolts.
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kevfromwales
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Oct 29, 2012 23:25:04 GMT
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cut the wheels off with your angle grinder
weigh in
use funds from non ferrous yard weigh in to buy my slotmags
fit to patrol
WIN!
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post a pic of the offending nuts and someone on here may have the correct tool for removing the things, i always grab them when i see them in a scrappy  |
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Halford sell a tool for this
Helps the Thieves though!
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stealthstylz
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Oct 30, 2012 10:23:08 GMT
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The Halfords tools are curse word, and you need an airgun.
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Oct 30, 2012 11:58:54 GMT
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cut the wheels off with your angle grinder weigh in use funds from non ferrous yard weigh in to buy my slotmags fit to patrol WIN! ;D |
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You're like a crazy backyard genius! |
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Oct 30, 2012 21:43:50 GMT
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The key is not to remove the nuts from the car, but the car from the nuts.
Hope that helps.
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Oct 30, 2012 22:21:27 GMT
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Someone told me this method a while back.
I'm not 100% sure i'd try it myself, but thought I'd put it out there!
Loosen the other wheelnuts a little and drive backwards and forwards and that should free them off. Guess you'd want to do one wheel at a time.
I see a number of issues with this. 1. it might wreck your wheels, 2 it might wreck your nuts, 3. the wheel might fall off 4. it might not work!
Anyway, just a thought....
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If they are standard fitment lockers just go to the dealer. My BMW came with no key for the wheel nuts, went to the dealer and they had every one and tried them all until one fitted. New key was £10
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oxb1l
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I've got a socket from Snap on that has angled lines that tighten the nut the more you try to slacken it Wasn't expensive  Bill |
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ChasR
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Oct 31, 2012 12:24:22 GMT
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My tyre fitter has used the Irwin tools for removing lockable wheel nuts. For sure it will no doubt destroy them, but it will remove them . As you already know, they are great things for when you come across awkward bolts. |
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Oct 31, 2012 12:41:43 GMT
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Someone told me this method a while back. I'm not 100% sure i'd try it myself, but thought I'd put it out there! Loosen the other wheelnuts a little and drive backwards and forwards and that should free them off. Guess you'd want to do one wheel at a time. I see a number of issues with this. 1. it might wreck your wheels, 2 it might wreck your nuts, 3. the wheel might fall off 4. it might not work! Anyway, just a thought.... The other school of thought is to tighten all the other nuts up more to minimise the amount of tension on your stuck one. |
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Oct 31, 2012 18:33:48 GMT
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Got the AA to do mine !!!!
However the tool oxb1l has shown above, is the one to have.
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Oct 31, 2012 20:17:21 GMT
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I agree, the tool that oxb1l has pictured is the one to have! I'm in the trade and regularly have to remove lockers with a tool just like that. Yesterday I had to (carefully)!! melt a locking nut with oxy acetylene to make it small enough to hammer the tool over it. All good fun....  |
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Al.
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Oct 31, 2012 22:16:00 GMT
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Thanks for the replies fellas! I might have a go with the Irwin removers - the right size may be in the expansion set (and it gives me an excuse to buy them!  ) |
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10mpg
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if you have reasonable access. i usually just knock them round with a chisel, if not i drill a hole in the end and hammer in a big stud extractor...
This is a presupposing hammering a socket over the end didn’t work..
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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