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whaaaaa?!?! How is that possible?? Lol
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You're like a crazy backyard genius! |
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No longer, if you receive the tax bill if you register it in Germany! ;D 1980 - qualifies for Historic plates  Resp: 191€ That's cheaper than my current 3.0l petrol (220€) ;D |
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Yes but as with all diesels what is the torque output ?
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Frankenhealey
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I'd have the engine for the Goddess  |
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18.42 bhp per litre, how the helll did they manage that!
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If you remove the 5.7 to give room for a 6.5 turbo derv it could be a great daily, as the 5.7 diesel is, in laymans terms, utter garbage ;D Obviously a ford or cummins diesel would be even awesomer ;D 18.42 bhp per litre, how the helll did they manage that! It was gm's first venture into diesel engines, it is basically a 350 oldsmobile petrol engine with upped compression and a diesel pump attached, it simply couldn't cope with any more power without blowing up!  |
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Last Edit: Dec 9, 2012 23:08:57 GMT by dude
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My family had a 1979 Oldsmobile Toronado with one of these 350 diesel engines. This was back in the early 90s, and by that point many of the diesel 1979-85 GM cars had either been junked or converted to gas.  Imagine this car in maroon, and it was just like that  Same body as the Eldorado of the same years  Not much to look at underhood, but it still manages looks better/less cluttered than any French car I've seen Dear ol' Dad drove this as a cost saving measure, the States being in a recession at the time. It got a little better than 20mpg(24mpg Imp.) combined cycles, I think dad said he got 25mpg(30mpg Imp.)on the longer, flatter sections of I-40 when we did our epic trans-continental road trip the summer of '92. I have to say I wasn't a big fan of the car at the time. When your winter can go for 5 months out the year, its a pain to wait up to a minute and a half before the glow plugs were hot enough to start the engine on cold mornings. Reliability generally sucked, I remember many times being stuck out in a parking lot somewhere with dad underhood trying to coax the thing to start with a can of ether. The crankshaft snapped at highway speed while my mom was out on a shopping day, and at that point most people would've washed their hands of the thing, but dad wasn't terribly discouraged. He had done some pretty intensive automotive repairs before, besides it would've cost more to buy a new/used car. Somewhere he found a NOS crate engine, and for a month spent every night after work ripping the old out and stuffing in the new. There was much sweat, a fair amount of blood, and a tweaked spine, but he managed to do it. Unfortunately, one thing he didn't do was get the proper wrench to get at one of the fuel lines, so while it ran trouble free for the rest of the time we had it, it stank of diesel like a truck stop. Dad sold it in '93 to get a new Pontiac Grand Prix sedan, also maroon. Fun Fact: The hood on one of these weighs over 100lbs. |
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Last Edit: Dec 9, 2012 18:27:42 GMT by detroiter
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Yes but as with all diesels what is the torque output ? 5.7l Diesel V8 Firing Order 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 Compression Ratio 22.5:1 Bore x Stroke 4.057 x 3.385" Horsepower... 78-79 125HP @ 3600 RPM 80-81 Truck Motors 125HP @ 3600 RPM 80-85 Car Motors 105HP @ 3200 RPM Torque... 78-79 225 Ft. Lbs @ 1800 RPM 80-81 Truck Motors 225 Ft. Lbs @ 1800 RPM 80-85 Car Motors 200Ft. Lbs @ 1600 RPM / 270nm Not too impressive either, for a 5.7 liter engine I guess... ;D 3l Merc engines of that era made 57nm per liter, the GM does 47nm - 10 less. And the OM61X range was a REALY antique design ;D That said - I wouldn't want anything but this awefull, terribly, sluggish, garbage engine in my Olds  |
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Dez
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they are an entirely rubbish engine. as noted, they're just whatever current v8 they had laying around adapted to run on derv in a cobbled together fashion- except they didnt do things like strengthen the crank for the massively higher compression ratio required, so they broke lots.
our 1.4 lupo tdi is chipped, and get as much HP out of a quarter of the capacity! not sure on what torques it puts out, i need to find the dyno reading.
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Dec 10, 2012 19:23:32 GMT
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Contrary to popular opinion the 350 diesel does have a number of casting upgrades over the petrol engine. It was a popular budget build route to make decent power to use the Olds 350 diesel block, crank and rods with suitable aftermarket pistons and early heads (like 330 or similar) ported out. With a decent intake and headers, suitable cam those former-diesels would make decent power and take a lot of abuse and/or nitrous.
Better routes exist to building stout Oldsmobile engines now, but some people in the US are always keen to snag a diesel block and bottom end.
As a diesel engine they do plain suck though.
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Dec 10, 2012 19:43:19 GMT
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think the title should be Gutless v8
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mate had a caprice station wagon was useless.
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theres more to life than mpg & to much power is just enough.
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