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That'll do for tonight, can anybody spot hat the mod is in the last pic?
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You've modded the idler to take both track rods....normally it takes one and there's a rod linking the steering arms...??
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Ps how heavy/powerful was the Isuzu and roughly how much was the Ashcroft kit?
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sowen
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Looking good, how easy was it to fit the later steering box to the side of the chassis?
I'm guessing the Isuzu engine is shorter than the original 2.25 so you could keep the rad near enough in the original position?
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Disc braked axles?
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cracking work, love the galv chassis
re: clearance questions. the standard engines have a fan mounted on the nose of the water pump pulley, which if removed free's up about 10-12 inches of room in front of the engine
excuse my ignorance but where does "Mercedes" come into it ?
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Thanks for the responses! Sort of right......I have had issues with the steering all the time I have this, first was the whole assembly was knackered, and was replaced along with all the steering ball joints , all 6! This was just about acceptable, but it was always a bit creaky, and wore several top column bushes....a sort o fibre affair, that if it got wet (roof off) would swell and make it unusable! The idler had seized into the chassis, and I suspect that this may have been the main culprit, It had oil in, but the change of the wheels made it a nightmare. I looked into power steering long ago, and it's not easy, the defender has the box on the inside of the chassis, and it would need to be mounted exactly where the cross member is, so without chassis mods was a no go. As I said before, whilst I am not worried too much on mods, I would rather not start cutting the chassis about, lots of folk do it I know, but, I am concerned about future implications, there's lots of modded landys out there that are probably illegal, and I don't want to find myself regretting my actions, therefore I have made all my mods a bolt on.
Something I just copied..... But all good things must end, and the old system which allowed you to do pretty much anything to a Land Rover as long as the end result could pass an MoT, was brought to an end by two separate developments. The first was the introduction in 1995 of the tax exemption for historic vehicles, initially on a 25 year rolling basis and then capped at 31st December 1972 (thanks, Tony and Gordon). This meant that, for the first time, the identity of a vehicle could make a big difference to the amount of road tax paid. The second was the introduction in 1998 of the Single Vehicle Approval (SVA) test. Intended to regulate the kit-car industry, the new test resulted in a tightening of the definitions of what constituted a self-built, as opposed to rebuilt vehicle.
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The Isuzu was similar in length, it was the 2.8 turbo, I kept the radiator in the same place, and it even stayed in place after i did the lt 77 conversion, which moved it 4"" forward! That all changed when I put the merc engine in. Oops, is that where the title came from? :-0
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sowen
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Land Rover steering seems to be very hit or miss, my 88 runs fine, it only started to wander since I fitted 7" long rear shackles to raise it, driving along I can feel the rear fishtailing close to the national speed limit, but some seem to be unable to run in a straight line even on the best of roads. I helped a mate do a similar steering box conversion on the outside of the chassis on his off roader, using a steering box from black cab, as it had the drop arm point rearwards, allowing the box to be mounted further forward to clear the wheels on lock and articulation. The whole SVA/IVA situation just makes it more of a challenge now , it would be too easy otherwise ;D
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So, back on the subject......steering! I wanted to find a steering box that would mount where it is now as this seemed the most obvious,I have been looking for years, since the Isuzu had a pump fitted and put on the shelf for the future. I measured and tried, and the closest I found was on an old pajero, however this would require a drop arm to be made, and the safety alarm rang in my head!! Well the future happened for that pump.....I stumbled across a post on the net, it was an american guy moaning and discussing bad steering on series landys, and a result tried to come up with a remedy. He discovered that a range rover p38 steering box fits in exactly the right place, and even better, the drop arm is perfect too! So if that's left hand drive, it should do work on the opposite......and it does! It sits almost touching the front panel.
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Yes my mate has a series 2, and his steering has always been way better than mine, I suspect my old chassis was crooked. It drives spot on now, even at 70 mph, with no bump steer at all!
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Good olde landrovers! it'lll be a minter soon then! Wish my 109 ambulance would drive in a straight line, i have to swerve all over the place to keep it in between the white lines!
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1987 Opel manta GT 2.0 16v 1976 Opel manta s project 1985 Opel Rekord E 2.2i 1992 Vauxhall Carlton 2.3TD 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis 2005 Landrover discovery 3
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Good job on the steering!
I like the 'leccy Sumo too. Is it up and running?
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Koos
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