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The paint on my Patrol is in need of some care. It's fairly oxidised and faded, and has what looks like black overspray (it isn't overspray) on the paint, particularly on the front end. I'm assuming this is tar / soot / oil / general "road pollution". It doesn't come off with regular washing down the do-it-yourself jetwash. In the past, on other cars with faded paint I've just given it a once-over with some T-Cut and wax and it's been right as rain, but this black stuff didn't shift at all!
The paint is a solid red. It's never going to be a show-winning finish but it could look a whole lot better.
So, what do I use?! My arsenal of products usually consists of generic car shampoo, T-Cut, whatever wax is knocking about, some old cut up t-shirts for cloths and the garden hose. Will a clay bar do it? Or a tar remover? I'm out of my depth here!
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Last Edit: Jul 6, 2013 20:04:06 GMT by BenzBoy
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I've heard good things about using bug and tar remover and a clay bar
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it's not the holes that are rotten it's the metal around them
1975 trabant 601s deluxe
1987 trabant 601 Kombi
1996 fiat cinquecento 1.4 16v
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Go to Halfords and get some FARECLA Proffesional Scratch remover.......Baisically it it Fareclla G3 buffing compound...also get some GASKET remover to remove the tar...If those 2 don't curse word it then You will need to take it to a bodyshop and ask them to Buff it
Where you from
Dave
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I wouldn't use a scratch remover to remove tar without trying tardis 1st, it never fails on removing surface contaminats....
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Thanks for the suggestions. I was hoping to pick something up tomorrow and give it the once-over before heading to the Retro Show.
Complicating things is the fact that it does have some fresh paint where I've done some work the other weekend, but I will just have to avoid that area with anything harsh.
That Tardis looks like good stuff, although it doesn't look like I'd find it on the high street. Maybe I should just give some tar remover a bash? There is a hell of a lot of this black stuff on it though.
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pretty sure I've got the same thing on my sunny. it's like black overspray all over the front right wing. tried cutting compound by hand and had a go at it today with some clay bar stuff I found in my car cleaning box which worked a little, but very slowly... I never thought to try Tardis, I'll see if I can get hold of some if thats gonna be the best thing to use? I washed it today but didn't bother polishing it as I want to get this black stuff gone first...  ] |
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Last Edit: Jul 5, 2013 22:44:19 GMT by Al Ramone
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Thanks for the suggestions. I was hoping to pick something up tomorrow and give it the once-over before heading to the Retro Show. Complicating things is the fact that it does have some fresh paint where I've done some work the other weekend, but I will just have to avoid that area with anything harsh. That Tardis looks like good stuff, although it doesn't look like I'd find it on the high street. Maybe I should just give some tar remover a bash? There is a hell of a lot of this black stuff on it though. Autoglym intensive tar remover is pretty good & prob in halfords so i'd go that route followed by a clay bar then... |
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Medium grade bilt hamber clay bar will remove all that. Great stuff, and can use water as the lubricant. It only available online though,but worth the wait.
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Tar is usually along the sill and bottom of the door areas and it's loads worse in the summer months. Tardis is excellent stuff but any decent tar & glue remover will get it off (some need more elbow grease than others)
Get any tar etc off with that, water down some TFR and spray it all over the car, rinse/jetwash off (not in the sun!) dry it off and then clay bar it. After that go for a good hand glaze then wax. If the paint needs renovating, a machine polish with some fine cutting compound will be OK.
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1993 Mercedes-Benz 190e LE in Azzuro Blue.
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Hmm, I'm wondering if it is actually just really ingrained dirt, rather than tar. I wash it fairly regularly but nothing (even rubbing compound) seems to shift it. Here's a photo:  It's just built up over time, and the front wings and bonnet are all covered in it. I'll pop down to Halfords later and get some Autoglym Tar remover - I'm assuming that it'll loosen this stuff even if it's not tar? |
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Looks to me like the paint has faded and gone flat which makes it easier for the dirt to stick. I'd attempt a light wet flat with some 2000 wet and dry then machine polish (mop) to see how it comes up. If it's 2k or celly it should come up ok. Be careful if it has clear coat.
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1993 Mercedes-Benz 190e LE in Azzuro Blue.
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Looks to me like the paint has faded and gone flat which makes it easier for the dirt to stick. I'd attempt a light wet flat with some 2000 wet and dry then machine polish (mop) to see how it comes up. If it's 2k or celly it should come up ok. Be careful if it has clear coat. Thanks. I'm not sure what the paint is - it's an old 80's Nissan so wouldn't imagine it's anything fancy! I don't have access to a polishing mop this weekend, but it's something I could do at a later date. I'll try giving it a thorough clean and a bit of a polish by hand and see what happens - worse case scenario, I'll have a clean truck! |
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Your time would be better spent fixing the Bond, young man >:-(
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Koos
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Being an old fart, I use petrol to remove tar spots, its a no cost option as if it dosent work the petrol goes in the bike/mower/generator or use diesel if that's all you run
Ttfn Glenn
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hkr91
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Tardis can only be bought from your local Autosmart rep - you can however find some on eBay from time to time but make sure it's the proper stuff. It emulsifies with water.
Autoglym has intensive tar and glue remover, it does the job albeit a little slower but can be picked up from halfords and such like. I'd defiantly think about clay baring using a medium bar and maybe even polishing her by machine (start with the least aggressive and work your way up)
Have you under sealed the car? Sometimes the underseal over shoots and goes everywhere...
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Well, I had a go with the Autoglym Intensive Tar Remover and it hasn't really touched it. I found tar on the paint, but that isn't what this "overspray" looking stuff is. The photo I posted up doesn't really give a good impression of what's on it (in fact, that bit may just have been muck...) Here are some better shots of what I'm dealing with:   I think that this paint is beyond my meagre detailing skills. Depending on the likelihood of getting a decent result, I might take it to a professional. Your time would be better spent fixing the Bond, young man >:-( I know, I know!  I'm in the process of reducing the number of projects and cars so I stand a chance of finishing something. |
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Have you under sealed the car? Sometimes the underseal over shoots and goes everywhere... It has been undersealed, although not by me. It's saved it from the rusty fate of 99% of these Patrols! It could be underseal, although the black dots seem somehow in the paint finish - I tried scratching the spots off with my nail but there's nothing to scratch off, it seems. |
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Last Edit: Jul 6, 2013 20:08:30 GMT by BenzBoy
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Are they bits that've dug into the paint surface? If so a clay bay should pull them out.
Reducing projects to get some finished? Blimey I might have to try that!
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Koos
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jenkosowls
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that looks more like pin holing/paint blistering to me from poor paint prep. tar tends to be more blob like that's to fine and more localized to be tar spatter
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I'm in the process of reducing the number of projects and cars so I stand a chance of finishing something.