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Jan 25, 2014 12:15:37 GMT
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***GARAGE CURRENTLY EMPTY***
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Jan 25, 2014 16:33:07 GMT
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There was only 1 Quattro
Eveything else is "just" a quattro,a trim level-type badge that shows the car has 4wd
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Jan 25, 2014 17:03:20 GMT
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the 80 quattro was available not long after the ur , so it was a brand more or less from the start i suppose in that regard, a lot of the early quattro cars are sort of forgotten or not appreciated enough thesedays
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Jan 25, 2014 18:25:06 GMT
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Ditto. I saw that ad and thought just the same thing.
IIRC the original was something dreamt up by a team of Audi engineers 'out-of-hours'? Did I remember that right?
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Hoppum
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Jan 25, 2014 21:10:20 GMT
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IIRC the original was something dreamt up by a team of Audi engineers 'out-of-hours'? Did I remember that right? Think you're thinking of the original Golf GTI bud. |
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Jan 25, 2014 21:50:43 GMT
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IIRC the original was something dreamt up by a team of Audi engineers 'out-of-hours'? Did I remember that right? Nah, it was a legit, big budget assault by Audi. I think Piech was in charge at the time and it was an intellectual and technical c*ck-sizing exercise to prove they were miles ahead of the game. Group B legitimised it and made it glamorous but this is where it all started.  This is an Auto Union Munga that I saw in Italy a few years ago. Munga is an abbreviation of Mehrzweck Universal Geländewagen mit Allradantrieb (Multi Purpose Off Road Car with Four Wheel Drive). I think they should have stuck with the full name. |
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Last Edit: Jan 25, 2014 21:57:49 GMT by Battles
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Jan 25, 2014 22:01:12 GMT
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Chris Harris explains the origins pretty well here.
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Jan 25, 2014 22:09:58 GMT
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Give me one of these over any of the modern RS Audi range
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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Jan 25, 2014 22:11:17 GMT
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Jan 25, 2014 22:43:48 GMT
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That's a great album. I love the plain-jane two door saloon development model. |
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Jan 25, 2014 22:59:41 GMT
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That's a great album. I love the plain-jane two door saloon development model. i havent updated it in a while have a lot of pics of the early ur test mule , and think ive more shots of the others there too |
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Jan 26, 2014 11:02:39 GMT
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UR Quattro's are one of those cars that when you look at pictures, you think "nice"....but when you stand next to one, those bulging arches makes it look 10 times as badass, and you just want to sell everything you have to get one!!!  We only have a handful here, and a few years ago I could get one for cheap....still get annoyed with myself for not pulling the trigger, and will probably keep feeling that way till I die.  |
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buzby
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Jan 26, 2014 13:56:46 GMT
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The worst thing in my opinion is that the quattro name has been diluted in recent years by being applied to models with the cheapo Haldex viscous coupling-based FWD/pert-time 4WD system instead of the mechanical permanent 4WD system first used on the Ur Quattro (though even that has now lost it's Torsen centre differential in favour of a open diff and clutch plates linking the two output shafs to allow the torque split to be controlled electronically).
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mexicansteve
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Club RR Member Number: 31
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Jan 26, 2014 16:25:54 GMT
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Is this not what you meant...
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BeQuietandDrive
1989 Bedford Astra Van
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86mike
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Jan 26, 2014 22:11:52 GMT
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This is my one, had it for yonks now, can't imagine any other car that I would feel the same way about. IMHO not one of the newer Audi's come close.  |
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At risk of being burnt at the RR stake as a heretic, the early quattros handled like pigs. Certainly the 80q and 90q (both of which I rallied) understeered more than anything I've ever driven. That big engine hung out over the front wheels means there's NO chance of getting the back end to break away.
I was never lucky enough to drive a 'proper' turbo q, but I can only imagine you just hit the hedge with the front wing even quicker!
However, once you've gone around the corner, boy are they quick!! I can still remember the smiles I used to get pulling away at t-junctions - the ability to put down so much power, so quickly - quite amazing!
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Jan 30, 2014 18:34:10 GMT
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It's only the same a mtec bmws,u can get just about every BMW in an M versions.yet the m car is a BMW M1 from back in the day.
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Jan 31, 2014 11:04:48 GMT
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At risk of being burnt at the RR stake as a heretic, the early quattros handled like pigs. Certainly the 80q and 90q (both of which I rallied) understeered more than anything I've ever driven. That big engine hung out over the front wheels means there's NO chance of getting the back end to break away. I was never lucky enough to drive a 'proper' turbo q, but I can only imagine you just hit the hedge with the front wing even quicker! However, once you've gone around the corner, boy are they quick!! I can still remember the smiles I used to get pulling away at t-junctions - the ability to put down so much power, so quickly - quite amazing! interesting ,,, was it the gpA cars you drove ? or were they home builds? both the gpA 80q and 90q and coupe quattro had very successful rally careers, but often overshadowed by the gpB era , in fact the works gpA 80s from '83(which incidently its rumoured had to be told to back off so as not to beat the gpB ur on the 83 swedish) were still being used in semi works backing until as late as '88 ,, a very capable and underrated machine that required a very aggressive driving style to get the most from it and the lack of power they had in works spec at the time |
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Jan 31, 2014 11:53:43 GMT
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At risk of being burnt at the RR stake as a heretic, the early quattros handled like pigs. Certainly the 80q and 90q (both of which I rallied) understeered more than anything I've ever driven. That big engine hung out over the front wheels means there's NO chance of getting the back end to break away. I was never lucky enough to drive a 'proper' turbo q, but I can only imagine you just hit the hedge with the front wing even quicker! However, once you've gone around the corner, boy are they quick!! I can still remember the smiles I used to get pulling away at t-junctions - the ability to put down so much power, so quickly - quite amazing! LOL...I remember Walter Röhrl saying the exact same thing. I think he actually crashed one trying to get to grips with the style of driving it required, saying the stupid thing just refused to turn.  EDIT:Correction...he didn't call it a stupid thing.... www.classicandsportscar.com/news/csc-features/all-hail-the-mighty-quattro-%E2%80%93-star-of-stage-and-screenThat said, he did figure it out eventually.......  |
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Last Edit: Jan 31, 2014 12:05:44 GMT by HammerDown
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Jan 31, 2014 18:41:00 GMT
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was it the gpA cars you drove ? or were they home builds? both the gpA 80q and 90q and coupe quattro had very successful rally careers, but often overshadowed by the gpB era , in fact the works gpA 80s from '83(which incidentally its rumoured had to be told to back off so as not to beat the gpB ur on the 83 Swedish) were still being used in semi works backing until as late as '88 ,, a very capable and underrated machine that required a very aggressive driving style to get the most from it and the lack of power they had in works spec at the time They were both 'home builds'. We had the 80q for a couple of years and the 90q for about 6 months until tighten noise regs meant we just couldn't get through scruitneering with them  Not long after that they banned 4WD and more than 4 cylinders on the clubman rallying I was doing, and that's more or less when we jumped ship and started doing Enduro events with a Rover 200...BIG come down!! There's a lady with a BEAUTIFUL Ur q at work (could be the red car in the C&S article linked below). Makes my heart flutter every time I see it! A Ur q is definitely on my 'lottery garage list'...or maybe a Lynx conversion?! Together with a Stratos and an RS200!! And maybe a Renault 5T2, and a T16. Oh and can I have an RS Mexio Mk1 in apple green with forest arches please? And a Delta too? [damn, 2nd edit!] Sunbeam Lotus... <dribble, dribble, dribble> |
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Not long after that they banned 4WD and more than 4 cylinders on the clubman rallying I was doing, and that's more or less when we jumped ship and started doing Enduro events with a Rover 200...BIG come down!!