Foxy
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Mar 24, 2014 16:27:38 GMT
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X 300 s and Xj40s aren't proper Jaaaags though. Series 3 can be had for peanuts and are lovely. This is mine. 13 mpg is what she does but that pininfarina styling makes up for it. 4.2 straight 6.
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I'm the handsome fella with the cheesy white specs or is that the cheesy fella with the handsome white specs?
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THE_Liam
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Mar 24, 2014 16:55:37 GMT
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I've got a 190E and although they aren't really barges as such they do have that feel about them, especially if you're used to smaller cars. And while I'm only getting 22mpg that is exclusively town driving, high 30's on a run is realistic, they aren't especially complicated and parts are cheap
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Rich
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Mar 24, 2014 18:28:24 GMT
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Third attempt to post this, cheers proboards. Hyundai XG30. Heated electric leather, climate control, cruise, auto lights, Pillarless doors, all for late 90's fiesta money. I paid £799 from a Hyundai dealer, with full service history and 43k on the clock.
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Mar 24, 2014 19:55:22 GMT
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Mar 24, 2014 20:14:42 GMT
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Maybe a Senator or Monza?
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adam73bgt
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Mar 24, 2014 20:58:04 GMT
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X 300 s and Xj40s aren't proper Jaaaags though. Series 3 can be had for peanuts and are lovely. This is mine. 13 mpg is what she does but that pininfarina styling makes up for it. 4.2 straight 6. I do love the proper series Jags, but I think they're going to be a little old for me, plus I'd be too tempted to mod one I've got a 190E and although they aren't really barges as such they do have that feel about them, especially if you're used to smaller cars. And while I'm only getting 22mpg that is exclusively town driving, high 30's on a run is realistic, they aren't especially complicated and parts are cheap I do like the look of the 190e, theres a very cool looking one that frequents a regular meet near me, I suppose I could be tempted by a straight 6 one, and it would certainly feel big compared to the MG.. Third attempt to post this, cheers proboards. Hyundai XG30. Heated electric leather, climate control, cruise, auto lights, Pillarless doors, all for late 90's fiesta money. I paid £799 from a Hyundai dealer, with full service history and 43k on the clock. Aha, a friend and I have a future plan to take a couple of big Korean saloons and make slammed VIP/onikyan style cars out of them, do sound like technically a lot of car for the money.. I do like the Granada (Mk2?), if I could find a solid one... not sure what the reliability on old fords is like? Maybe a Senator or Monza? The big vauxhalls had slipped my mind to be honest, seem to be very thin on the ground these days
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Mar 24, 2014 21:06:22 GMT
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Rich
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Mar 24, 2014 21:37:40 GMT
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Third attempt to post this, cheers proboards. Hyundai XG30. Heated electric leather, climate control, cruise, auto lights, Pillarless doors, all for late 90's fiesta money. I paid £799 from a Hyundai dealer, with full service history and 43k on the clock. Aha, a friend and I have a future plan to take a couple of big Korean saloons and make slammed VIP/onikyan style cars out of them, do sound like technically a lot of car for the money.. So basicly, what i'm (slowly) doing with mine. Get on it. More of this
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Foxy
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I do love the proper series Jags, but I think they're going to be a little old for me, plus I'd be too tempted to mod one I paid £800 for mine. It's now lowered 8" and on 18" range rover wheels.
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I'm the handsome fella with the cheesy white specs or is that the cheesy fella with the handsome white specs?
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Massive fan of BMW and Jaguar saloons. E38 740i and 750i are fantastic, but massively complex machines. Sensible choice would be X300 XJ6 as it's bulletproof compared to the later Nikasil V8's. Loved my X300's, but going back to one now would be spoiled by my X350 4.2 V8, which is for sale, but doesn't fall into the "bargain" category. The all-aluminium bodied car makes the older cars seem pedestrian. Only the XJR can compete for straight line speed, but even then the lighweight car just feels so much more lively in the bends due to the weight, which also makes MPG pretty unbelievable for a big V8. For a lazy barge though an X300 XJ6 is still fantastic. I had read about the issues with early V8's and the 6 seems to be a pretty solid engine anyway which had made me sway towards the XJ6. There seems to be a couple of the aluminium body XJ's going quite cheap which did surprise me but they seem to be the V6 models. I do wonder how the XJ40 compares to the X300 though as I'm quite a fan of the styling of the XJ40 but there are fewer about, especially in not too rusty condition. I did read about early 40's having electrics issues and I suppose the X300 is largely a refined and improved XJ40 really Also I wouldn't want something too fast and fun to drive or I'd never get the MG back on the road I have had an XJ40 for a long time. Really, their only serious weakness is rust. Mechanically they are strong and reliable, the 3.2/3.6/4.0 straight six engine being particularly robust and capable of vast miles. The automatic transmission is the either the ZF4HP22 or ZF4HP24 – a simple thing by auto transmission standards, but what it looses in sophistication it makes up with reliability. They can wear suspension bushes, particularly at the front (look for wear on the insides of the tyres, a sign of wear in the wishbone bushes), and noisy differentials are not unknown, but otherwise hold no nasty surprises. The XJ40’s electrical problems are model specific. Early cars (these have a digital dash and a 2.9 or 3.6 litre engine) can be fragile electrically, since they have problems with dry solder joints in the particularly in the instrument pod and bulb failure modules. They rarely strand the owner, but constant error messages on the vehicle condition monitor (a tiny LED TV screen on the dash) can be annoying. Later XJ40s with analogue instruments and 3.2 or 4 litre engines are much better electrically. They are more electrically reliable than most other cars; most electrical problems on these stem from rust – either corroded earth points, or electrical gubbins getting wet. The XJ40 has struggled against snobbery in the Jag world for some reason and this, together with the (mostly undeserved) reputation for electrical problems – and thoroughly deserved reputation for rusting - led them to become seriously cheap. Huge numbers were broken for often trivial reasons. Sad for an XJ40 enthusiast like me, but it has led to a glut of secondhand parts on Ebay, which are often very cheap. There is reasonable parts availability for new parts too, probably better than the X300, which I find surprising. The XJ40 is an easy car to work on, coming from an era when cars were designed to be easy to take apart and put back together again. The genuine Jaguar workshop manual is excellent and available from Jaguar as a DVD for about £15. Forum support is good. For anyone who works on their own car, the XJ40 is a fairly cheap car to maintain. Economy isn’t great. I get low 20s running around, mid to late 20s on a run – and mid to late teens in city driving. The late XJ40 (cars with the battery in the boot) is very similar to the X300 – really, the X300 is a mildly re-engineered, facelifted late XJ40. I guess which is better is down to which car’s styling you prefer. I’m much more a fan of the XJ40; I like the ‘80s styling, I prefer the interior, with better quality leather and more of it - and the car has more character somehow. Some prefer the X300. They are marginally better engineered – the engines are slightly smoother and they were built on a modern production line, so are much less hand built than the Xj40. This means they are built more accurately, but have less charm.
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X 300 s and Xj40s aren't proper Jaaaags though. Series 3 can be had for peanuts and are lovely. This is mine. 13 mpg is what she does but that pininfarina styling makes up for it. 4.2 straight 6. Why don't you think the XJ40 or X300 are proper Jags?
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Foxy
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They don't have that air of antiquity about them. A jag should be akin to a gentleman's study.
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I'm the handsome fella with the cheesy white specs or is that the cheesy fella with the handsome white specs?
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I kinda think if you are considering the MPG then that's missing the point. Ok 12mpg is pretty dire but a lot of these sorts of cars will do 20-25 if driven carefully. I reckon go for the one you REALLY want. Each luxo barge has its own personal style so get one which you've always wanted rather than the one that makes more sense. None of them make sense! Get one with a decent ticket on it, run it for 6 months and see how you feel at the end. Might end up being a bargain but you won't lose much if you sell it on.
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The Millenium Volcon"Get yourself a Volvo if that's what you really want, you might be dead next year. In the meantime, you could be going sideways in a gigantic land barge."
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Now you've got me looking want one
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Last Edit: Mar 25, 2014 7:54:20 GMT by bluffin
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Last Edit: Mar 25, 2014 8:01:05 GMT by joem83
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JohnK
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I think what other people have said re getting the car you really want is probably the best advice here.
My first car in 2006 was a K reg BMW 520i (E34) and 8 years/54 cars later pretty much all of my cars have been big barges, apart from a couple of cheap runabouts I've bought when I've convinced myself I need something cheaper to run!
I had an X300 Jag about 4 yeas ago and at the same time my mate had an XJ40. I did find the X300 a little more refined but personally I preferred using my mates.
I think there are so many more options out there though than just the Jags and getting the one you want is really the most important. I'm a BMW fan through and through and kept going back to them every time, my favourite being the E23 728i I've got at the moment. Fuel economy sucks (but then again these days I'm used to modern diesels as a daily) but the enjoyment I get from driving it is second to non and with these type cars that is what is important over what is the 'sensible ' choice.
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adam73bgt
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You all make a lot of sense (well as much sense as one can make when considering a cheapo barge ) I think in the end I shall go for what I really want, after all thats the thought process that got me the MG and I've been happy with that for two years now I think ultimately I shall be an XJ40 man, unless another sub £2k Rolls Royce comes up like that one on here not long ago haha Edit: That said, this thread has given me new car ideas for the next 10 or so years
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Last Edit: Mar 25, 2014 9:28:57 GMT by adam73bgt
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meltdown
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Isn't letting old age get the better of him, still making the same bad decisions with vehicles.
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Mar 25, 2014 11:00:19 GMT
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This thread is full of win, having just been given a Lexus/Toyota soarer they are pretty good at being luxurious, will return 21mpg for the V8 :- This is what I plan to do with mine.... Otherwise you can't surely go wrong with a 500 sec - I'd have had one if the Mrs liked it...one of my all time fav's!
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Last Edit: Mar 25, 2014 11:01:16 GMT by meltdown: Fat fingers!
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adam73bgt
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Mar 25, 2014 11:06:19 GMT
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That Soarer looks epic, as does the 500SEC linked above too, I think I may have to do a big bargain coupes thread as well (rofl)BMW 850i anyone?...
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