encino
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Apr 29, 2015 16:59:51 GMT
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This Monza is currently on ebay fitted with a 24 valve motor and manual gearbox.  The motor appears to be a 4.0 ltr, could this be a special unit or just a valve cover off something more exotic?  |
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Ray Singh
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More German exotica in my garage now
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Apr 29, 2015 17:22:50 GMT
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Could it be a Holden ?
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Apr 29, 2015 17:24:35 GMT
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4.0 from a Irmscher Senator. Cool conversion.
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Last Edit: Apr 29, 2015 17:28:14 GMT by WillCarter
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MrSpeedy
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Apr 29, 2015 17:25:40 GMT
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They did a 4.0 Senator? That one completely passed me by then!
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Apr 29, 2015 17:27:52 GMT
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irmscher c40se? re bored/stroked monza/senator engine around 270bhp pretty sure there was a turbo or supercharger kit for these aswell, some one will now alot more though MonzaPhil ? |
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Apr 29, 2015 17:30:27 GMT
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They did a 4.0 Senator? That one completely passed me by then! I edited because I thought a 4.0 was a more run of mill, turns out it's Irmscher only. |
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MrSpeedy
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Apr 29, 2015 17:33:43 GMT
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Ahhh, that explains it then!
Still, bloody nice though
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Apr 29, 2015 17:39:56 GMT
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Apr 29, 2015 18:34:30 GMT
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That's been on EBay before, some time ago admittedly.
They're using the same pictures as last time,
Not sure if it really is a 4.0, could be just the cover?!
I'm not keen on the way they've patched the front suspension turrets, bit of a bodge!
And the front shock top mounts are definitely not correct and don't even appear to be bolted to the turrets! Shonky!!
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Apr 29, 2015 18:55:43 GMT
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sure I have seen that car on here somewhere?
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MonzaPhil
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Apr 29, 2015 19:37:30 GMT
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Friend of mine bought it last year but got made redundant to either sold it on or cancelled the sale.
If I bought it I'd only keep the engine which is definitely a 4.0 apparently.
Maybe the wheels.
I think this is all I know.
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breng
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Apr 29, 2015 20:11:17 GMT
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Was'nt ther a 4.0 variant of the 12v engine? I am sure some went to South Africa.
Yep, those turrets look like they wanted to meet each other.
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MonzaPhil
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Apr 29, 2015 20:55:50 GMT
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3.6 12v and 3.9 12v but the 24v was the 4.0.
I think they'll go over 4 litres.
Sent from my 3.0 12v is thirsty enough using proboards
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encino
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Apr 29, 2015 22:40:30 GMT
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What sort of power will this engine produce?
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MonzaPhil
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About 260hp which is plenty.
Easier to find in mainland Yerp though.
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Apr 30, 2015 10:40:15 GMT
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Whoever did the conversion may have done other mods like a limited slip diff and maybe suspension and braking mods, might make a awesome trackday car when welded up.
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MonzaPhil
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Apr 30, 2015 10:53:56 GMT
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Agreed. It looks quite low and an LSD is a sensible swap if not already in there.
A few extra horses must make a world of difference but it's not a GSE so not one for my collection.
Not sure what the deal is with those strut tops but if they're loose it would just fall off the road. The turret repairs aren't the nicest to look at but if they are strong then it's not a problem. I've seen worse patches, and bigger.
As I said, I'd pull the motor for something else and drop a 12v back in there.
That said, I'd like to explore horse increasology on a 12v before going down the "easy" route.
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bstardchild
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The 4.0 Litre engine is a nice lump but not without problems
Head gaskets are very difficult to find and the land between the bores is much smaller than a 3.0 (engine was bored and stroked)
The other issue is they had a hotter cam fitted but with the OE Hydraulic tappets so they tend to rattle a bit on start up or tickover.
Loads of Rocker covers got dumped on the market a few years ago so I'd want to know what the engine code was before I bought that car based on the engine
I actually like the wheels too
Mantzel did a 4.0 liter version too
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bstardchild
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Oh and they got an uprated gearbox (both Auto and Manual) and they have a reputation for breaking them too
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Agreed. It looks quite low and an LSD is a sensible swap if not already in there. A few extra horses must make a world of difference but it's not a GSE so not one for my collection. Not sure what the deal is with those strut tops but if they're loose it would just fall off the road. The turret repairs aren't the nicest to look at but if they are strong then it's not a problem. I've seen worse patches, and bigger. As I said, I'd pull the motor for something else and drop a 12v back in there. That said, I'd like to explore horse increasology on a 12v before going down the "easy" route. Sent from still on my honeymoon using proboards The turrets are a real soft spots on these cars, i've seen people welding in thicker metal on top like you see in the picture, to toughen up that general area. |
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