Donor steels for W202 Merc

[J1MMY]

I'm toying with the idea of banded steels for my C250TD but I'm no MB expert. What would be the best model to pinch them from it not the same car? I was hoping W638 vito as they have centre caps (I'm not keen on exposed hub centres) but again, it's been a decade since I previously owned a Merc for more than two minutes so I'm a bit lost. Any help appreciated.

[brc76]

the PCD and the center bore are the same, but the offset is 60 where the 202 is offset of 37.

[J1MMY]

Ahhhh dammit. Don't reckon I'll get away with almost an inch further in the arches without spacers and I'm not keen unless it's unavoidable.

Thanks for the info

Am I looking at standard issue steels then or are there other options?

[ettorebugatti]

If you band the steels, you can alter the offset/ backspace.

[MrSpeedy]

You can alter the back spacing but not as part of the banding process.
It's also a lot easier on some wheels than others depending on how they are constructed.
Ie, if the centres are spot welded in or mig welded

[brc76]

as a off the shelf this wont work, but.... there should be an option if you really must go off the shelf.

If not, can you band the standard W202 wheels? the VITO wheels would also be able to be banded, or just retain the centers and have new hoops made, then you can specify the width, offset size to your needs.

What about making them 3pc wheels, like the below?

[MrSpeedy]

Sept 20, 2016 0:30:53 GMT brc76 said:

What about making them 3pc wheels, like the below?

That's a really expensive way of making a really sh1t looking wheel imo

[brc76]

Sept 20, 2016 1:45:47 GMT MrSpeedy said:

Sept 20, 2016 0:30:53 GMT brc76 said:

What about making them 3pc wheels, like the below?

That's a really expensive way of making a really sh1t looking wheel imo

I'll go with it can look bad and it can look good, but it's expensive either way indeedy.

The picture above is probably one of the worst I've seen, poor choice on my part me thinks! needs lots more dish, less offset imho

Just presenting the options available!

[hario]

Sept 19, 2016 17:52:02 GMT J1MMY said:

I'm toying with the idea of banded steels for my C250TD but I'm no MB expert. What would be the best model to pinch them from it not the same car? I was hoping W638 vito as they have centre caps (I'm not keen on exposed hub centres) but again, it's been a decade since I previously owned a Merc for more than two minutes so I'm a bit lost. Any help appreciated.

W210 steels are bigger than w202 ones but I can't remember what size exactly, probably 16" and 17".

I know this by trying to fit my w202 steels on a w210 (didn't clear the callipers).

Can't think of any bigger steels available..

[MrSpeedy]

Oct 23, 2016 23:08:58 GMT hario said:

Sept 19, 2016 17:52:02 GMT J1MMY said:

I'm toying with the idea of banded steels for my C250TD but I'm no MB expert. What would be the best model to pinch them from it not the same car? I was hoping W638 vito as they have centre caps (I'm not keen on exposed hub centres) but again, it's been a decade since I previously owned a Merc for more than two minutes so I'm a bit lost. Any help appreciated.

W210 steels are bigger than w202 ones but I can't remember what size exactly, probably 16" and 17".

I know this by trying to fit my w202 steels on a w210 (didn't clear the callipers).

Can't think of any bigger steels available..

The standard alloys off of my W210 are 16", so I'd expect the steels to be the same

[hario]

Oct 24, 2016 12:04:33 GMT MrSpeedy said:

Oct 23, 2016 23:08:58 GMT hario said:

W210 steels are bigger than w202 ones but I can't remember what size exactly, probably 16" and 17".

I know this by trying to fit my w202 steels on a w210 (didn't clear the callipers).

Can't think of any bigger steels available..

The standard alloys off of my W210 are 16", so I'd expect the steels to be the same

Perhaps they were 15's.

Basically stock W202 C250 steels don't fit W210 E300TD..

[Mercdan68]

I'd get some w202 steels and get them banded,merc wheel fitment are a nightmare,tried all different types of merc rims on my 202 and my 210s,hub centric spacers cost a fortune I know!

[village]

VW T4 transporter wheels? same PCD and tough as old boots. almost all 15 inchers with a smattering of early 14s and late expensive 16s too.

[dickdasterdley]

Nov 8, 2016 13:56:18 GMT village said:

VW T4 transporter wheels? same PCD and tough as old boots. almost all 15 inchers with a smattering of early 14s and late expensive 16s too.

You'd have to enlarge the centre hole, as the mercs have a 66.6 hub spigot, but VW's have a 57.1mm spigot

[village]

Nov 13, 2016 17:54:38 GMT dickdasterdley said:

Nov 8, 2016 13:56:18 GMT village said:

VW T4 transporter wheels? same PCD and tough as old boots. almost all 15 inchers with a smattering of early 14s and late expensive 16s too.

You'd have to enlarge the centre hole, as the mercs have a 66.6 hub spigot, but VW's have a 57.1mm spigot

Dammit! I thought I was being clever, but it turns out I'm not as smart as I thought.......

[joem83]

Have a look on mytyres, your offset is 37 these are 43:
www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/skw.pl?dsco=110&cart_id=60922156.110.21186&s_p=Steel-Rims&sowigan=felgen&Hersteller=Mercedes+Benz&PKWtyp=C+230&PKWtypgenau=%3A189642%3A%3A2496%3A150%3A200703%3A200905%3A66.50%3A112.00%3A5%3A204+++++++++++++++++%3A%3AP%3AE1*2001%2F116*0431*..+

Tyreleader 6.5x17 et38 17's
www.tyreleader.co.uk/steel-wheels/mercedes/gla/all-20378

[madmog]

When you find a Merc model where the wheel would fit but is (probably) alloy, have a look on German Ebay for steel winter wheels for that model. It's common there, maybe compulsory for cars to have two sets of wheels; nice alloys for summer and dirty steels with snow tyres for winter.

Eg www.ebay.de/itm/4-Stahlfelgen-16-Zoll-Mercedes-C-Klasse-CLK-203-208-209-7Jx16H2-ET37-2034001602-/152336698893?hash=item2377f98e0d:g:8EMAAOSw44BYPUio

[J1MMY]

Now bookmarked for referring back to, thank you chaps

[joem83]

Having just dealt with mytyres, I wouldn't recommend them lol

[frankie78]

Some early W210 Mercs came with 15" alloys or steels.
The part number for the steels should be A 210 400 0702. If you can't find a full set try the boot of an early W210 in a scrappy as it should have a 15" spare.