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Hi all! Do Urekem retail in the UK? I can't find a UK seller... www.urekem-paints.com/low-gloss-car-paintThat stuff. Or, is it sold by another name over here? Or something similar? I am after pearls and metallics, in satin or matte (NOT flat) finish, preferably an old skool single stage paint. Any advice or thoughts? Cheers! |
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Appears to be a US product only and it could well be that some of the legislation regarding it's use / materials content probably makes it unpractical for them to comply outside of the States in the automotive refinishing market - last time I required something on this basis from the States I had it shipped to a friend who resides there who in turn shipped it to me which took several weeks and cost a small fortune but that is what my client wanted - Has already stated probably 'House of Kolor' is going to be the nearest similar product to it in the UK
Now having said all of that there is no reason why you cannot apply a pearl / metallic basecoat which can be either solvent or waterbased and apply a satin clearcoat / lacquer over the top to create the effect you require hence making it a 2 stage process - you could even create your own lacquer effect by adding a compatible matting base to a gloss lacquer - 40% - 50% matting base added to the lacquer will give you a full matt whilst 20% (ish) will give you a satin lacquer but you would need to spray a test card / small panel to ensure that you are achieving the effect that you require before painting the complete car - let me know if you require any further info / help - Chris
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Appears to be a US product only and it could well be that some of the legislation regarding it's use / materials content probably makes it unpractical for them to comply outside of the States in the automotive refinishing market - last time I required something on this basis from the States I had it shipped to a friend who resides there who in turn shipped it to me which took several weeks and cost a small fortune but that is what my client wanted - Has already stated probably 'House of Kolor' is going to be the nearest similar product to it in the UK Now having said all of that there is no reason why you cannot apply a pearl / metallic basecoat which can be either solvent or waterbased and apply a satin clearcoat / lacquer over the top to create the effect you require hence making it a 2 stage process - you could even create your own lacquer effect by adding a compatible matting base to a gloss lacquer - 40% - 50% matting base added to the lacquer will give you a full matt whilst 20% (ish) will give you a satin lacquer but you would need to spray a test card / small panel to ensure that you are achieving the effect that you require before painting the complete car - let me know if you require any further info / help - Chris Hello mate. The effect there is not the end result I'm after. It's simply a base for what comes next... So having a single stage rather than two stage process to get it that far would make life easier for me. Though in my searches I have found another interesting paint effect that I would quite like to try out. |
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Appears to be a US product only and it could well be that some of the legislation regarding it's use / materials content probably makes it unpractical for them to comply outside of the States in the automotive refinishing market - last time I required something on this basis from the States I had it shipped to a friend who resides there who in turn shipped it to me which took several weeks and cost a small fortune but that is what my client wanted - Has already stated probably 'House of Kolor' is going to be the nearest similar product to it in the UK Now having said all of that there is no reason why you cannot apply a pearl / metallic basecoat which can be either solvent or waterbased and apply a satin clearcoat / lacquer over the top to create the effect you require hence making it a 2 stage process - you could even create your own lacquer effect by adding a compatible matting base to a gloss lacquer - 40% - 50% matting base added to the lacquer will give you a full matt whilst 20% (ish) will give you a satin lacquer but you would need to spray a test card / small panel to ensure that you are achieving the effect that you require before painting the complete car - let me know if you require any further info / help - Chris Hello mate. The effect there is not the end result I'm after. It's simply a base for what comes next... So having a single stage rather than two stage process to get it that far would make life easier for me. Though in my searches I have found another interesting paint effect that I would quite like to try out. I would advise that you find a really good independent automotive paint factors and enquire if they can mix you a single stage black satin pearl paint (I somewhat /very much doubt it) However / even so a single stage paint will take forever to cure (months) and if you are applying other effects / factors / masking over the top of the black satin pearl single stage paint you are not going to save yourself anytime or effort over a 2 stage process |
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Hmm. Food for thought there. Thank you, I do appreciate the advice!
While you are talking paints actually, clearcoats with candy in them... What is the score there? Just throw some candy effect solids in there and spray away? And do you know much about adding matting agent to that too to give a matte satin sheen? Or does that negate any effect that the candy might give?
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Hmm. Food for thought there. Thank you, I do appreciate the advice! While you are talking paints actually, clearcoats with candy in them... What is the score there? Just throw some candy effect solids in there and spray away? And do you know much about adding matting agent to that too to give a matte satin sheen? Or does that negate any effect that the candy might give? Candy finishes are normally applied / sprayed first (like a basecoat) with the lacquer then applied over the top of it (there are some that you can add to the lacquer but I have limited knowledge use of them) - the matting agent / satin lacquer will still work over the candy but candy effect paints are primarily there to create effect with a gloss lacquer - A quick web trawl will show results of suppliers that stock a satin lacquer but the advantage of the matting base is that you can create your own custom satin effect / depth |
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I can see a LOT of test cards being shot!
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I can see a LOT of test cards being shot! Good luck - but test cards are the way to go - I have seen a lot of wasted time, effort & money over the years where others have just made an assumption that something / product / material will give the effect that they have in mind - simple sprayout cards are available from automotive factors / e bay etc and can save a lot of time - I once watched a guy do all of his colour / effect tests on white card only to find out that the effect was completely different when applied to primed steel body panels There are no end of You Tube vids that will give you ideas / tips on custom patterns / lacing / masking / custom candy effects & lacquering |
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My tests will be on scrap primed steel, with the very same base as will be on the car, don't worry.
Actually, YGPM.
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