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Apologies, I forgot I had this... tiresize.com/tyre-size-calculator/...looks like a 7mm diameter difference. Not an expert, but that could be the difference between no passenger and a big lad (or load) so I'd bet it would be in tolerance for the abs. I'm going back to bed for a lie down!
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Nov 29, 2019 10:24:30 GMT
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Apologies, I forgot I had this... tiresize.com/tyre-size-calculator/...looks like a 7mm diameter difference. Not an expert, but that could be the difference between no passenger and a big lad (or load) so I'd bet it would be in tolerance for the abs. I'm going back to bed for a lie down! Mate, You are miles ahead of me. Tyres = Round and black Wheels = Round and hold black things Difference = Keep talking as I know nowt. I know diddley about this stuff other than what I like. So all this stuff out on here (questions and ideas) are because I need guidance and help. BUT: If you had a heart attack, stroke or DVT/PE please do come knocking.
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Nov 29, 2019 10:27:57 GMT
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willtheyfit.com is great for this as it gives a visual representation of the difference between two sets of parameters you feed it.
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Nov 29, 2019 10:53:47 GMT
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Old Skool Photoshop. Wheel placed next to existing wheel And yes......... Could be:
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Nov 29, 2019 22:31:44 GMT
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[/quote]Mate,
You are miles ahead of me.[/quote]
If there is ever a "Useless Automotive Trivia Pub Quiz" you need me on your team...
...when it comes to actually twirling a spanner, I am NOT the man. In fact things can get occasionally dangerous when I get too ambitious!
Part of my job involves taking kids in care to work experience in a garage situation. Long story short, I'm constantly embarrassing myself, being well-read but inexperienced when the tutor says "come and have a go!"
But it is the best working day of my week, last week I was able to show some skinny 13yr olds a cheat to lift up some wheels with enormous AT tyres and fit them to a Range Rover. Was good to see them succeed.
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Nov 29, 2019 23:09:18 GMT
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last week I was able to show some skinny 13yr olds a cheat to lift up some wheels with enormous AT tyres and fit them to a Range Rover. Was good to see them succeed. A bar or a shovel? Colin
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Afraid not. I sat on the floor, legs akimbo either side of the wheel and lifted it with my knees and one arm until I got a bolt in.
Previously watched the two lads wrestling the weight of the wheel (and each other)
Spigot rings would definitely have helped!
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glenanderson
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Modern wheels are “hub centric”, so your spigot rings are pretty much essential to keeping the wheel exactly where it’s meant to be relative to the hub.
Personally, I’d look for another pair of the narrower rims, so that you can have the same wheel/tyre combo all the way around.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Modern wheels are “hub centric”, so your spigot rings are pretty much essential to keeping the wheel exactly where it’s meant to be relative to the hub. Personally, I’d look for another pair of the narrower rims, so that you can have the same wheel/tyre combo all the way around. or a pair of wider even.... ;-)
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Modern wheels are “hub centric”, so your spigot rings are pretty much essential to keeping the wheel exactly where it’s meant to be relative to the hub. Personally, I’d look for another pair of the narrower rims, so that you can have the same wheel/tyre combo all the way around. Waiting for the spigot rings to land. Seems they are lost in post. No more wheels, Imam cheap and to be honest, a spare of random size will be found...... Modern wheels are “hub centric”, so your spigot rings are pretty much essential to keeping the wheel exactly where it’s meant to be relative to the hub. Personally, I’d look for another pair of the narrower rims, so that you can have the same wheel/tyre combo all the way around. or a pair of wider even.... ;-) Wider sounds great.
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Spigot rings to reduce 66.6 to 57.1 arrived in the mail yesterday. Good look and feel. And offered up, not yet installed as I want to flat back the inside of the faces. So one problem solved. Next unsolved is finding good, high quality adaptor studs.
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a thin smear of copper slip wont go amiss when they go in for good.
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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glenanderson
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a thin smear of copper slip wont go amiss when they go in for good. Personally, I’d use a little loctite to secure them into the centres of the wheels, and just a tiny bit of copperslip around the centre. You don’t want any on the vertical face between the wheel and drum/disc. The last thing you want is to be changing a wheel one night in the rain and have one ping off down the road never to be seen again.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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jamesd1972
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Dec 13, 2019 14:52:18 GMT
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a thin smear of copper slip wont go amiss when they go in for good. Personally, I’d use a little loctite to secure them into the centres of the wheels, and just a tiny bit of copperslip around the centre. You don’t want any on the vertical face between the wheel and drum/disc. The last thing you want is to be changing a wheel one night in the rain and have one ping off down the road never to be seen again. Glen, Why non on the face of the wheel ? This is the place a thin smear of copper grease is needed most to stop the dissimilar metal welding effect ? I know you need to avoid the wheel bolts / studs so as to not affect torque readings and also allow them to loosen but the centre of the hub and wheel mating face is where i always smear some on so they don't stick. I might be missing something ? As an aside when changing wheels I always loosen all nuts by one turn and then rock the car / move the steering wheel from side to side to make sure the wheel frees from the hub BEFORE jacking the car... James
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Last Edit: Dec 13, 2019 14:53:12 GMT by jamesd1972
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glenanderson
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Dec 13, 2019 16:12:56 GMT
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You don’t want anything other than clean bare metal on the mating faces. The drive and braking forces are transmitted from hub to wheel by the friction between them, with the clamping force coming from the tightness of the wheel nuts. It’s the same on any driven flange; like a propshaft or even a clutch plate. Grease, dirt or paint can allow movement, which will swiftly result in a loose wheel. You won’t get the faces sticking irreversibly together. When wheels get stuck it’s on the centre boss.
It’s the same reason you don’t paint wheels where the nuts seat (or paint wheel nuts).
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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