andyborris
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Feb 29, 2020 13:21:03 GMT
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Might be buying and driving home a car from Poland.
Obviously, not UK registered, so what to do about insurance? Need 3rd party at least while I drive it home, is there any one who offers this?
Thanks
Andy
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I know not a great deal about this subject although you will likely only need a few days cover so I'd google temp cover the up to 30 days type as there's not that many who do it and call a couple up and explain and see what happens. They'll know how to proceed
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melle
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If you're a UK resident you can't drive it in the UK on Polish plates, regardless of how it's insured. Here's some good information on importing vehicles. |
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Last Edit: Mar 1, 2020 18:26:23 GMT by melle
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Hi there, really sorry but this is not something that we would be able to help with.
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If you're a UK resident you can't drive it in the UK on Polish plates, regardless of how it's insured. Here's some good information on importing vehicles. Unless it's to a pre-booked MOT  Book it in before it enters the UK and take it straight there. What are you getting from Poland? A Maluc? |
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melle
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Unless it's to a pre-booked MOT Not if it’s on foreign plates if you’re a UK resident. |
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Unless it's to a pre-booked MOT Not if it’s on foreign plates if you’re a UK resident. Ordinarily you're right. To be driven directly to a pre-booked MOT would be fine. I had the same issue with mine a few years ago. |
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melle
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The fact you got away with it doesn’t make it legal. 😉 gov.co.uk is pretty clear, see the thread I linked in my earlier post. Edit: mikehamid , I thought I'd dropped a link to the gov.co.uk website in the other thread, but I apparently didn't. Find the link here, this is the most important info in relation to andyborris 's question: |
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Last Edit: Mar 4, 2020 20:46:24 GMT by melle
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The fact you got away with it doesn’t make it legal. 😉 gov.co.uk is pretty clear, see the thread I linked in my earlier post. Edit: mikehamid , I thought I'd dropped a link to the gov.co.uk website in the other thread, but I apparently didn't. Find the link here, this is the most important info in relation to andyborris 's question: I had a discussion with the DVLA at the time, who said it was a grey area. If you can prove that the vehicle is in the process of registration (i.e. NOVA certificate etc) and your car is pre-booked for a local MOT, then you have a case. Assuming also that the vehicle is registered, taxed and insured appropriately. In the case of OP, an easier way to avoid towing the car is to get another Polish national to drive it from the port, so long as they are correctly insured. |
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Last Edit: Mar 4, 2020 21:08:18 GMT by mikehamid
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melle
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I don't see how it's a grey area, it's pretty clear from the gov site that it's illegal. That being said, I don't think the probability of running into trouble is very high, but doubt I your "case" will hold up should you be involved in an accident or stopped for a routine customs check.
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andyborris
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Thanks for all the help chaps in this thread and the others I've posted about buying and importing.
After being ignored by the French and meeting sharp practice from the Polish, I've given up! At least on the importing side anyway, still want a 4x4 camper I can stand up in.
So where do I stand with a 4 door pickup converted to a 2 door trayback. My reading of the rules suggests no problems because it's got a separate chassis?
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Dez
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It IS legal to drive to a prebooked MOT as part of the registration process- but only if it is insured, on the NOVA system, and you remove the polish plates first.
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I think the only way to buy a car abroad and bring it back to the UK legally would be to trailer it.
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I think the only way to buy a car abroad and bring it back to the UK legally would be to trailer it. Certainly the easiest.. |
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ZXRob
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It IS legal to drive to a prebooked MOT as part of the registration process- but only if it is insured, on the NOVA system, and you remove the polish plates first. Didn't you do something similar with that rad old Citroen you had? |
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Dez
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It IS legal to drive to a prebooked MOT as part of the registration process- but only if it is insured, on the NOVA system, and you remove the polish plates first. Didn't you do something similar with that rad old Citroen you had? Yep. The issue about uk citizens not being allowed to drive a foreign plated car disappears as soon as the car enters the NOVA system, as the foreign identity is voided, and a temporary new identity is created based on the chassis number. You can then insure the vehicle by this number, and MOT it too, as anyone who has done it will know. I have it in writing somewhere (or had, may have been lost in the fire at the workshop) from the DVLA that to satisfy road traffic law whilst driving the vehicle to MOT etc. Before fully registered, you should display temporary plates displaying the last 7 digits of the chassis number. When I questioned what that should comprise I was told cardboard and a marker pen was sufficient. I asked do I not need trade plates to drive it, and they said no, as long as it was a privately owned and insured vehicle being taken to fulfill the obligations of a MOT test, they were not required. |
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still want a 4x4 camper I can stand up in. So where do I stand with a 4 door pickup converted to a 2 door trayback. My reading of the rules suggests no problems because it's got a separate chassis? how tall are you? yes, as long as you don't have to modify the chassis from what I understand, that's just a rebody, easier to start with a 2 door and dispose with the tub though surely? Dez is doing exactly the process you mention though not for a camper. quite a few 4x4 sprinters about, not cheap though, and most are low/medium roof, though there are a few high roof ones about. do you REALLY need 4x4 though? decent AT tyres on a van will get you quite far, |
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melle
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It IS legal to drive to a prebooked MOT as part of the registration process- but only if it is insured, on the NOVA system, and you remove the polish plates first. Then you must NOVA it at the ferry port before customs/ border control, and from there go straight to an MOT station I suppose? |
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It IS legal to drive to a prebooked MOT as part of the registration process- but only if it is insured, on the NOVA system, and you remove the polish plates first. Then you must NOVA it at the ferry port before customs/ border control, and from there go straight to an MOT station I suppose? Theoretically, yes. Mine was in the UK for three years before being towed to mine, so I didn't have this issue fortunately. Exactly what the DVLA told me too. Mine was on obsolete pre-unification German plates, so it didn't really matter. |
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Last Edit: Mar 5, 2020 20:08:34 GMT by mikehamid
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