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Hannah and i are both members of our local volunteer firebrigade. We call it fireclub. Its good fun and an essential thing to support in our region because summer is pretty intense here and getting drier! About 2 months ago we picked up a new fire engine. Well overdue as we've been making do with a pickup until now. Meet 'Bernard Hino'... 1985 Hino 4wd. Originally built in Australia, then used in Collingwood, Golden bay NZ and now ours Exactly the same cab as our housetruck. Very fun and cool to drive. Looking forward to some 4wd missions ! So... anyone else here on RR happen to be a fireman and if so show us your trucks Alex
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Last Edit: May 6, 2020 3:17:05 GMT by yoeddynz
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Ritchie
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Imp Club chairman Richard Claydon has a couple, he did 30 years in London Fire Brigade.
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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vitessetony
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We need something like that over here for wildfire, at the moment we're rocking a battered and I do mean battered Navara on road tyres! Here's some machines on a bit of a burn out a few years back, Got a tad warm that one!
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vitessetony
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Static life! Tucked n tight. Air suspension arm/carrier failed, sheared off completely. Looks cool but can't go anywhere
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We need something like that over here for wildfire, at the moment we're rocking a battered and I do mean battered Navara on road tyres! Our 4wd pickup that we are still using alongside the Hino is a Navara. They are called a smoke chaser here. It only carries about 300l of water which lasts all of 30 secs. So its main purpose, if its anything larger than a tiny spot fire, is to get to a fire quick and set up pumps, dams etc for when the big boys arrive. Now with our truck we are one of the big boys So I'm presuming you are in a brigade tony? Whats the deal in the UK- are most local smaller brigades mainly volunteers like here in NZ? ( we do get paid when out at an actual proper fire- but personally I'd rather there not be any fires because they can get out of hand real quick here in summer!
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vitessetony
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Yes mate I'm a wholetime firefighter in Greater Manchester. With us covering a large area there are 41 stations across the brigade, when I started most used to be two pump stations with a crew of at least 9, more if we had a special appliance on station, now due to the ideology of the government cuts most are one pump riding 5 and sometimes 4. Scary and completely unnecessary but that is not a topic for this forum.
We do have a few retained firefighters which is probably the closest we have to volunteers but they do get paid every time they turn out and have their own station to operate from, typically they are in rural areas which are deemed lower risk and will usually be supported by a wholetime crew.
We had a big wildfire (for us) in 2018 but it'll be nothing compared with what you have to deal with over there, with the heat and dry conditions I know things can go south quickly for you lot, couple that with a bit of wind and I know how difficult putting a stop in can be.
Do you put cuts in and burn back to the fire? Something we've been asking to do for years but I don't think top brass can get their heads round lighting fires to stop fires!
What gear does the Hino carry or is just for getting water up to the fire front?
Anyway, stay safe mate.
P.S are you the dude who used to have the Viva featured on the smoking tire?
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Yes mate I'm a wholetime firefighter in Greater Manchester. In that case, thanks. I used to love my day out to renew my Fire Marshal certificate when I worked on Metrolink. Used to get our own back getting you guys to put up overhead line earth straps when there was still 750vDC going through!* Great days. *Think they put a stop to that later?
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Last Edit: May 7, 2020 11:34:06 GMT by georgeb
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vitessetony
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Yes mate I'm a wholetime firefighter in Greater Manchester. In that case, thanks. I used to love my day out to renew my Fire Marshal certificate when I worked on Metrolink. Used to get our own back getting you guys to put up overhead line earth straps when there was still 750vDC going through!* Great days. *Think they put a stop to that later? We used to do that when we visited the tram depot if I remember correctly but the brigade have a purpose built training site now for everything we do, including having a tram (old bombardier?)and OHL so we practice on a dead line now.....not as much fun but probably for the best!
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In that case, thanks. I used to love my day out to renew my Fire Marshal certificate when I worked on Metrolink. Used to get our own back getting you guys to put up overhead line earth straps when there was still 750vDC going through!* Great days. *Think they put a stop to that later? We used to do that when we visited the tram depot if I remember correctly but the brigade have a purpose built training site now for everything we do, including having a tram (old bombardier?)and OHL so we practice on a dead line now.....not as much fun but probably for the best! That'll be the old Queen's Road depot in Cheetham Hill and the trams were Italian, Ansaldo (the new ones are Bombardier). One great story from the early days was when I was on mobile duties. Got a shout that a tram had hit a car coming out of Picadilly Undercroft. The Control Room called the emergency services. Got there and sure enough, there's the tram and car. Asked our driver where the car driver was and he told me, "He's gone to open his newsagent's shop over the road." On hearing the sirens, this guy runs back, jumped into the car (a rather mint Chevette hatch) and started wailing about his neck. At this point, the ambulance had arrived and witnessed this. Shortly afterwards, the fire brigade turned up. We explained the situation to them. The ambulance crew, with a grin, told the fire brigade, "He can't be moved, got to come out, seat and all." Fireman said, also with a smile, "Best cut him out then." In short order, the car was cut to pieces around the guy whilst he sat there rolling his eyes. The ambulance took him away and the brigade swept up the bits. The tram eventually continued the journey. CCTV showed he'd crashed a red light, GMP prosecuted and we sued him for income lost during the morning peak. Bad day...Black Rock! Loved working with you guys!
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vitessetony
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😂 we get a few like that, you can tell the genuinely injured from those trying to get a claim when you start cutting the roof off!
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Given the recent summer heat that the UK has been getting more recently I'd be surprised if the fire crews over there don't start getting more intense things to deal with. Yeah it can be pretty bad here, getting worse. This summer for us locally in Tasman district it was not quite as stupidly dry or hot as the year before when we had a huuuuuuuge bush fire that burned for a long time... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Nelson_firesI don't want to see a repeat of that but sadly the way things are heating up it will happen. Its just getting so dry here. Up in the north island, now winter and its looking like this in places... Our new engine has a main pump and 3000 litres. It also carrys a smaller wajax pump along with a load of hose reels etc. Designed and built for scrub/bush fires. It has water bars over the cab etc so you can drive through smaller fires and the crew can stand and move around the top deck to fight fires from up there. Its there to use but I really do hope we never have to because the curse word goes south quick eh. I cant get over the massive fires OZ has had this summer. I honestly just cant comprehend what those fires must be like to be around. Just bloody scary! Yeah I'm the fella who had built the V6 Viva. Now busy building another fun we car engine.....
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vitessetony
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Yes they definitely have their work cut out down under when a bush fire gets hold, much respect goes out to the boys and girls out there doing what they can. Wildfires are pretty dangerous to tackle if you're not careful, conditions can change very quickly and you can suddenly be cut off and be surrounded. Have you seen the film Only The Brave? It's based on actual events and it's a good demonstration of how even an experienced crew can be caught out with tragic consequences.
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Nah I've not seen that but I'll look it up.
Yeah rather them than me @ fighting those fires in oz. That's proper hard work!
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When I first moved up here to Manchester I got a job as a furnace operator in a magnesium foundry. It still had harks back to the good old days, including a Works Fire Brigade. When the fire alarm sounded (which was quite often- Magnesium burns quite well) they would down tools and race to the garage where they kept an old Carmichael/Land Rover fire engine. By the time they had got it started and piled in, we would have put the fire out or it would be raging out of control and the proper fire brigade would have been called. I had a ride in it once on a training day. It was awful (and I love Land Rovers), boiling hot, slow, noisy, uncomfortable. Like a normal Landy, but on steroids. When we arrived at the "fire" the PTO pump wouldn't engage. I think it was retired shortly after that. It was very much like this one.
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Certainly not the prettiest fire engine either. But could make a neater camper conversion. Just avoid hills...
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