cjj
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Just been out in the car with the little one and had two random thoughts, both observational.
1) If we're to drive with our hands at 10-and-2, why do cars always seem to have the horn and stalks in a position that encourages you to drive at 9-and-3? 2) How nice does the ST24 look these days? Or is it just me?
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What’s an ST24? Is it like a B52? 🤔🤣🤣
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Last Edit: Aug 4, 2020 18:56:06 GMT by Deleted
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cjj
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What’s an ST24? Is it like a B52? 🤔🤣🤣 The original of the 'ST' Fords The styling/scarcity of it is way more appealing to me than it used to be.
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Last Edit: Aug 4, 2020 19:05:03 GMT by cjj
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Last Edit: Aug 4, 2020 19:26:01 GMT by mr2fc
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cjj
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They're worth more than I'd want to spend on one, but I do quite like them!
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thought of the day , other than damn its hot .... was , why are there so many vw toe-rags on lanzarote? (Mused less than an hour ago after seeing many many today!)
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Just been out in the car with the little one and had two random thoughts, both observational. 1) If we're to drive with our hands at 10-and-2, why do cars always seem to have the horn and stalks in a position that encourages you to drive at 9-and-3? 2) How nice does the ST24 look these days? Or is it just me? I've never driven 10-and-2, it's just all wrong, 9-and-3 is correct. www.skoda-motorsport.com/en/drive-like-pro-hold-wheel-like-rally-driver/Also, modern-wise ... 10-and-2 + airbag = pain
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fogey
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Why are manufacturers incapable of making steering wheels that are actually round - padded wheels are usually so out of true it messes with my OCD . . . .
Bring back the retro precision made wood rimmed wheel please.
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Last Edit: Aug 4, 2020 21:35:36 GMT by fogey
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If you drove at 9 & 3 you won’t pass a Police driving test & jelly mould Mondeo... really?
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Dr.AK
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Why are manufacturers incapable of making steering wheels that are actually round - padded wheels are usually so out of true it messes with my OCD . . . . To add to this, steering wheels / columns and gauges that are not centered to the driving seat. Drives me nuts.
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cjj
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If you drove at 9 & 3 you won’t pass a Police driving test & jelly mould Mondeo... really? That's why I find it so strange that the controls aren't suited to 10 & 2. But yes, that Mondeo. I can smell that 90's Ford interior in my mind now. I quite fancy another Puma too. It's been a few years since I worked for Ford, so the tainting is finally wearing off and I'm starting to appreciate them
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Correct position of horn switchgear. Doesn't matter where your hands are really. Trafficator switch in the middle. Bonus point for anyone who recognises the car.
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Last Edit: Aug 5, 2020 0:50:07 GMT by igor
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I quite fancy another Puma too. Another "four seat MR2" contender! www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1243565Do Mondeos and Pumas handle as I remember? I had a Mondeo, for its size it drove really well, and I drove a mates Puma once, that was excellent. But that was BITD, they may not be as mega now...
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Also, thinking about where your hands are on a steering wheel, remember your thumbs aren't supposed to be in the rim, so it shouldn't matter where spokes or horn buttons are...
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Why do most steering wheels have such a thick rim? It makes them uncomfortable to hold and encourages you to 'strangle' the wheel, rather than guide the car with your finger tips. Small diameter wheels exacerbate this. It's one of the many that make thd mk1 Focus horrible to drive.
Horn push should be in the centre of the wheel
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I wonder whether some of the training to hold the wheel and 10 and 2 is purely while learning and having a driving test. My instructor told me to set the rear view mirror slightly "off", so I had to move my head to look in it, and so the examiner would be able to tell when I'm doing that. Maybe having to move hands more to get to the stalks is a similar thing.
I was told by someone who worked at a local car manufacturer that their test drivers were all told to use 9-3 position. And to drive down the centre of a single carriageway road (as long as nothing is coming, obviously) to equalise the danger of cars popping out from either side.
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cjj
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Also, thinking about where your hands are on a steering wheel, remember your thumbs aren't supposed to be in the rim, so it shouldn't matter where spokes or horn buttons are... What about lights, indicators and other controls that they put on the central plane?
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Also, thinking about where your hands are on a steering wheel, remember your thumbs aren't supposed to be in the rim, so it shouldn't matter where spokes or horn buttons are... What about lights, indicators and other controls that they put on the central plane? Normally not on the actual rim?
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Something like this? So thumbs aren't inside the wheel to catch on spokes if you hit a kerb/pothole/angry badger or if you have a steering or suspension failure. Maybe that answers the earlier question about rim thickness? So people with longer fingers can't wrap them round the rim and get caught in similar situations?
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cjj
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What about lights, indicators and other controls that they put on the central plane? Normally not on the actual rim? No, but if you drive at 10 and 2 you have to take your hands away from the wheel to operate the signals etc. If they were at 10 and 2 you wouldn't. They do similar for racing drivers (e.g. all controls easily accessed while maintaining vehicle control) so it seems counter-intuitive to design the controls the way they do in a normal car. Is the same with paddle shift - massive pain in the to try and change gear using them if you are feeding the wheel.
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