vulgalour
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Mot exemptvulgalour
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I'm currently bumbling about in my Princess sans MoT. It hadn't been laid up for as long as the OP's Triumph so I was a bit more confident that it was in roadworthy condition. That said, I will be putting an MoT on it come the spring just so I can move the date to something more favourable for working outdoors should I need to when the MoT rolls around.
It does feel like I'm doing something naughty driving around in a car with no tax and no MoT, but other than that there's no issue. A simple form at the Post Office and it's all above board. What is peculiar is that when the car needed an MoT it would attract attention occasionally from police cars, now it attracts none at all (so far at least), it's like it's invisible. I suppose MoT-exempt classics now fall into the Not My Problem area of policing and it's down to the DVSA spot checkers to catch them instead.
Sounds like you're going about it the right way though, the car is getting a thorough going over before it hits the road that should catch things like brake lines, tyres, serious rot, and other safety critical items. An MoT for a 40+ year old car is more of a legal/insurance safety net in case the unthinkable happens since you at least then have some proof that the car has been independently checked at some point recently.
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....with a hint of grease. ...and possible notes of exasperation to the discerning palette?
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Mmmm, MOT... *licks lips* Tastes...papery You're all weird. It's all about the ink for me.
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Tastes...papery You're all weird. It's all about the ink for me. Ahh, mainlining eh?
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You're all weird. It's all about the ink for me. Ahh, mainlining eh? I've started by stockpiling all that banned tattoo ink, then I'm going to expand my squid breeding programme. It's hot on the black ink market🤫
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Hello everyone. I've got a mk2 cortina 1600e that I bought back in August 2021. It's not been on the road for at least 15 years. The engine is currently being rebuilt, it's now running escort steering rack , rs 2000 struts and compression struts. Once its all back together, I'm going to mot it for my own peace of mind. Even though its will have been gone through from front to back, new brakes and pipes, engine and gearbox rebuilt, right down yo new wheel bearings etc etc. I personally think that a car that's not been on the road for so long should be moted.
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fraudownersclub
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We have plenty of customers with”MOT EXEMPT VEHICLES”. They all get them tested for A piece of mind B No issues with an insurance claim if the need arises
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#fraudownersclub #richartsltd
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Jan 22, 2022 12:56:52 GMT
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Hello everyone. I've got a mk2 cortina 1600e that I bought back in August 2021. It's not been on the road for at least 15 years. The engine is currently being rebuilt, it's now running escort steering rack , rs 2000 struts and compression struts. Once its all back together, I'm going to mot it for my own peace of mind. Even though its will have been gone through from front to back, new brakes and pipes, engine and gearbox rebuilt, right down yo new wheel bearings etc etc. I personally think that a car that's not been on the road for so long should be moted. I'd definitely agree with getting it MOT'd, peace of mind for one thing, and depending on what rules you believe it could be listed as having major modifications, which would remove it's exemption anyway
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Dez
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Mot exemptDez
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Jan 22, 2022 14:20:55 GMT
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Insurers doesn’t care if an MOT exempt car is actually tested or not, the idea they do is just rubbish.
I’ve had two non fault accidents in unMOTed classics, and despite both third parties trying to get out of what was fairly obvious liability on their parts (including one getting as far as court proceedings being filed by my insurer before they folded) it was never mentioned once. If they’re not using it as leverage in such situations, it’s a non-argument.
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slater
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Jan 22, 2022 18:08:38 GMT
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I think its quite scary how many people doubt their car so much they need to send to a MOT monkey to cast their eye over it every year. They arnt even allowed to check it over properly under MOT rules!
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Jan 22, 2022 19:48:12 GMT
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I think its quite scary how many people doubt their car so much they need to send to a MOT monkey to cast their eye over it every year. They arnt even allowed to check it over properly under MOT rules!
Ah, but!
A quiet word to Dai the MoT and he cheerfully always did our cars 'properly'. I wanted to know if there was anything vaguely approaching its use by date long before it might cause a problem.
He charged the full rate for the MoT but took far longer that could ever make it profitable for him. But if he said she's good to go, by by gum she would be.
He's about my age so he only came out to do the 'interesting' ones and left Baby Dai to do the boring routine stuff. Many of the local vintage/veteran/classic owners used him as he knew his way around their quirks. Mechanical drum brakes were nothing to a man who knew his way around centre throttles and rear wheel only brakes.
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Last Edit: Jan 22, 2022 19:48:43 GMT by theoldman
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Jan 22, 2022 19:51:02 GMT
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A few years ago, before exemption, I used to MOT cars prepared by a local restoration company. NOT a 2 bit operation, but one selling prestige ground up restos that cost £45k+ a pop when sold. I'd quite often find pinched or weeping metal brake pipes. All brand new but needing an extra tweak on the unions or not correctly bent. Other small faults as well These cars had already BEEN road tested and checked over. Think their QC guy had a white stick!
But the point is, we're all human and humans make the odd mistake.If, like me, you exploit the extra power you have lovingly added to your classic, surely it's not too much trouble to have it MOT'd? Also, it's one thing to have an accident that's clearly not your fault and your insurance company not worry about the exemption and lack of ticket. It's not their money! Have one that (heaven forbid) IS your fault and watch their tune change!
I've been on the spanners for over 50 years, had my own garage for more than 30 and built dozens of souped up cars for myself and customers. I STILL get ALL my cars tested, not just the restomods that are not exempt, the stock classics as well. I do have a classic friendly tester, but he doesn't let me get away with anything dangerous, nor would I want him to! I know as well as most and better than many that the MOT isn't isn't worth the paper it's written on as soon as you drive off the forecourt and that testers are (amongst other failings in the MOT) strictly prohibited from dismantling ANYTHING on an MOT. Yes the test is flawed, but it's what we have.It's a lot better than nothing!
Steve
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bazzateer
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Jan 23, 2022 19:56:44 GMT
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Even though a modern car is tested once a year, the driver/owner (not sure who) is still responsible for keeping it roadworthy between those tests. Any MoT tasters feel free to correct me, but I think that's right! I'm not an MoT tester but who's responsible depends on the circumstances. Could be the both.
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Last Edit: Jan 23, 2022 19:57:23 GMT by bazzateer
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mk2cossie
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Jan 23, 2022 21:46:28 GMT
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Even though a modern car is tested once a year, the driver/owner (not sure who) is still responsible for keeping it roadworthy between those tests. Any MoT testers feel free to correct me, but I think that's right! I'm not an MoT tester but who's responsible depends on the circumstances. Could be the both. MOT has nothing (or very little) to do with road worthy. It is a test to see if the vehicle meets minimum road safety requirements. Non obligatory brake light not working? MOT pass and advise, DVSA roadside check, or even traffic cop can issue a defect paper for it. And thats just touching the surface of the silliness in different standards
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Jan 23, 2022 21:57:52 GMT
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Is that not a case of "if it's fitted it has to work"? Seems a bit silly otherwise
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Jan 23, 2022 22:41:28 GMT
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Is that not a case of "if it's fitted it has to work"? Seems a bit silly otherwise Last week I was behind a modern (corsa I think), all lowered and smoothed with rear wiper delete. It made me wonder if it was legal or, like you say if its fitted the blades have to be not falling apart.
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mk2cossie
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Jan 23, 2022 22:55:51 GMT
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Is that not a case of "if it's fitted it has to work"? Seems a bit silly otherwise Last week I was behind a modern (corsa I think), all lowered and smoothed with rear wiper delete. It made me wonder if it was legal or, like you say if its fitted the blades have to be not falling apart. Rear wiper has nowt to do with MOT So "if its fitted, it has to work" isn't always the case with MOT standards
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Mot exemptMercdan68
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I think its quite scary how many people doubt their car so much they need to send to a MOT monkey to cast their eye over it every year. They arnt even allowed to check it over properly under MOT rules! That’s an offensive comment , the boys at my garage I’ve been using for 20 years are far from “monkeys” as you put it
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Last Edit: Jan 24, 2022 6:06:43 GMT by Mercdan68
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fraudownersclub
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Mot exemptfraudownersclub
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As mk2 cossie has stated. The mot test is based on the minimum standards necessary to pass the test and them standards are definitely L O W
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#fraudownersclub #richartsltd
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Jan 24, 2022 13:21:57 GMT
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A few years ago, before exemption, I used to MOT cars prepared by a local restoration company. NOT a 2 bit operation, but one selling prestige ground up restos that cost £45k+ a pop when sold. I'd quite often find pinched or weeping metal brake pipes. All brand new but needing an extra tweak on the unions or not correctly bent. Other small faults as well These cars had already BEEN road tested and checked over. Think their QC guy had a white stick! But the point is, we're all human and humans make the odd mistake.If, like me, you exploit the extra power you have lovingly added to your classic, surely it's not too much trouble to have it MOT'd? Also, it's one thing to have an accident that's clearly not your fault and your insurance company not worry about the exemption and lack of ticket. It's not their money! Have one that (heaven forbid) IS your fault and watch their tune change! I've been on the spanners for over 50 years, had my own garage for more than 30 and built dozens of souped up cars for myself and customers. I STILL get ALL my cars tested, not just the restomods that are not exempt, the stock classics as well. I do have a classic friendly tester, but he doesn't let me get away with anything dangerous, nor would I want him to! I know as well as most and better than many that the MOT isn't isn't worth the paper it's written on as soon as you drive off the forecourt and that testers are (amongst other failings in the MOT) strictly prohibited from dismantling ANYTHING on an MOT. Yes the test is flawed, but it's what we have.It's a lot better than nothing! Steve This. 100%. I’ve built both my MoT exempt cars and I’ve been using/messing with one of them for 32 years. I still value an independent eye on them. They get a different point of view too as I don’t have a lift! Nick
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1967 Triumph Vitesse convertible (old friend) 1996 Audi A6 2.5 TDI Avant (still durability testing) 1972 GT6 Mk3 (Restored after loong rest & getting the hang of being a car again)
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