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It’s true in everything. Go to Argos or where ever & they spend longer trying to sell you insurance on the item you just bought than they did on the item. It is actually one of the ways for websites to make money, if you are in the world of high(er) value items, sell finance or financial product referrals. It is a fairly neat fit for car communities, but it has always made me a little uneasy. I've financed some of my cars over the years, but I don't know everyone's circumstances so I'm not sure whether to encourage that or not. If you look at something more commercial like Pistonheads the bottom of the ads have links to finance for quotes and it is one of the "Services" in the main menu. I imagine they are making a reasonable sum off this (but maybe they aren't, we have our insurance referrals with Classicline and they offset a single month of hosting across the year if I'm lucky).
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Everyone has a Fiesta story or knows someone who does. The very first car I ever drove was a white 1986/7 XR2 which was owned by one of the local driving instructors - a lady called Tina. I didn't get on with her so only had one lesson then ended up learning in a Mk2 Golf, but that Fiesta has always stuck with me. Bearing in mind that this was the early 90s at the height of Joyriding and theft of all things Fast Ford, her insurance bill must have been astronomical. It looked like this one with its Pepperpot wheels. Cheeky little thing! My Dad hired a baby blue one back in the late 70s for some reason and took me on a drive with him. He drove it like he stole it. It was very tinny and engine was clattery as hell, but he did say it was great fun. Random similar pic of one: My friend's Mum had a Mk4 with an engine that had allegedly been an experimental unit from Mountune. I never found out the specs but it went like the proverbial off a shiny shovel all wrapped up in a plain navy blue wrapper - an awesome Q car. And then of course there were the Pool cars at work. A Mk5 diesel so unbelievably slow it could barely carry 3 people at any speed on the A14, and 2x Mk6s, one with a clutch problem which turned out to be due to a broken engine mount. This car was so worn out and generally broken that when it was sent for service they simply said it was "uneconomical to repair" and threw it away. The other one had only done 13000 miles and was a really nice drive. Plus the Campus nurse when I was at University had a Mk3 XR2i - she drove it like a rally driver.
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I was always waiting for the Ford Razzle
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Oct 27, 2022 10:35:28 GMT
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Only ever owned a mk4 1.25 I was given to use until the mot ran out, zippy little car, had an issue where 5% of the time the throttle pedal would do nothing at all, very embarrassing sat at the lights would still like a mk3 3 door like @mercdan68, love how simple mods make them look awesome.
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Paul Y
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Oct 27, 2022 11:27:38 GMT
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I was about to pull my soap box out of storage and start on the whole reduction in mobility of the people that will be brought about by electric cars but decided to rather just point at the rise in subscription based car ownership. One simple monthly payment for everything. No negotiation, no trade in just £899.99 per month... On a positive the Super Fiesta(tm) my 04 base model is still going strong. 211K on the clock and has been the car all my kids have learnt to drive in. Still makes me chuckle how good it is on the twisties and pretty much zero operating costs. P.
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rodharris83
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Oct 27, 2022 12:17:18 GMT
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Ford don't make money selling cars - it is the vans that pay for the rest of the product line, well in Europe anyway. One year (back in the 2000s) I read in the news that FoMoCo made more money with financing than with selling cars! Mate MichaElWoody worked in the prototype plant (forgot the propper name) an was told by an older colleague, that the first fiesta prototypes were based on the fiat 127, can this be true? In that matter, for the first galaxy generation a lot of chrysler voyager was said to be used as a base car, too. Looks like the first Fiestas used the Fiat 127 as a test mule (Project Bobcat): gaukmotors.co.uk/cars/ford-fiesta-the-car-that-changed-the-spanish-automotive-market-forever/
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Oct 27, 2022 18:26:02 GMT
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Okay, so it wasn't first prototypes, rather the underpinnings of the very first concept cars. Thanks rodharris83
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Oct 27, 2022 19:15:58 GMT
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Had a few Mk1 1300s Mk1 xr2 And had two mk2 xr2s Then a few mk3s Great little cars I’d love another mk2 xr2 But as we all know you pays for a ford badge these days and rotters and painted up curse word still prevail
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norm75
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The first car I drove on the road was a mk1 supersport. My brothers mate had one and let me drive it from a neighbouring village back home.
I’ve driven a lot of cars, luxury cars, performance cars, even the odd super car and that little fiesta has always stuck out as a good car.
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Oct 28, 2022 10:53:01 GMT
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Tach! This is sad..... Fiesta`s are great little cars....i got my first(MK2,1100cc) in 1997....for free! I used him as cheap daily....clocked lots of kilometers by only minor maintanance ... Now,i have this 87' 1,6 diesel.....saved for 50 bucks from the bin....in 2005! It's very cheap to run.....and it's fast enough! Will get a resto somedays....maybe.... Greet
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ChasR
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Some great points raised here. However, with me working within the automotive sector, as well as the turmoil it has been in during Covid, I can see why it went. I can share thoughts on why I reckon it went if some wish.
That said, I am sad to see the Fiesta go.
My grandad had a Mk1 Fiesta in the late 70s. He loved it, coming from a Morris Marina. Unfortunately, it got written off.
My second memory was of a Mk2 1986 1.1 Finesse in Rosso Red. I suppose this is why I see '20 year old moderns' as retros ; Add rotten Dolomites/MGBs into that mix. I remembered how bad cars were! In 1992/3, this 1986 Finesse was a rotbox. The sills were holed, the inner wings were so bad, that my dad ended up tying string on from the indicator onto the battery tray to keep the indicator in! The wing was rusty and the passenger door was fit for scrap. All from a low mileage 6 year old car. The interior was interesting too as it was dirty inside. It had clearly seen a few oil changes skipped.
However, -It always started -It always was dependable -It was a simple thing to work on
We bought a 1987 MG Metro Turbo to replace it in 1993 for £350, which was shockingly, a better car structurally, but it did have more mechanical foibles, with dizzies getting stuck and being too retarded (my dad only really bought secondhand bits for cars then). As a result, the Fiesta lurked in the background, until we had more faith in the Metro Turbo.
Both would leave us in 1996/7. D133 FFD, what a flawed, yet great car.
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All the cars my dad has owned since I've been around have been Fords (the odd one out was a Hillman Avenger estate), the last 2 have been Fiestas. I don't know what he'll think of the Fiesta being dumped but I don't think he'll be happy. The constant Fords I've been in sent me the other way, I've never owned a Ford and other than the bedroom wall poster cars I've never wanted one. It's sad that it's going though, any replacement, EV or not, has a lot to live up to.
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stealthstylz
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Oct 29, 2022 11:23:29 GMT
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Pop & Bang map business owners facing ruin. Nah, there's already a Puma st, bigger profit in them for Ford, kids will just get more finance. The Puma has broken my belief in the "everything has potential" RR Mantra. Apparently what it took was a goppingly ugly Chinese knock off minature Porche Cayenne lookalike. I just can't see how any modifications would make them look better.
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ChasR
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Oct 29, 2022 12:08:47 GMT
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Nah, there's already a Puma st, bigger profit in them for Ford, kids will just get more finance. The Puma has broken my belief in the "everything has potential" RR Mantra. Apparently what it took was a goppingly ugly Chinese knock off minature Porche Cayenne lookalike. I just can't see how any modifications would make them look better. To be fair, folks probably thought that when we moved away from the traditional 3 box design and went with the newcomers like the Fiesta back then? Christ, I never used to like Renault 4s etc. back then. Time will tell if the 'Puma' becomes liked.
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norm75
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Oct 29, 2022 12:27:05 GMT
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Nah, there's already a Puma st, bigger profit in them for Ford, kids will just get more finance. The Puma has broken my belief in the "everything has potential" RR Mantra. Apparently what it took was a goppingly ugly Chinese knock off minature Porche Cayenne lookalike. I just can't see how any modifications would make them look better.
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stealthstylz
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Oct 29, 2022 15:51:04 GMT
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That's not helping, even by modern WRC low standards that is incredibly ugly. Awful. Why has it got a old gas BBQ handle as a grille?
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norm75
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Oct 29, 2022 15:57:20 GMT
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The picture you posted is actually the wrc fiesta, made to look like a puma before it was fully developed.
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Dez
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Oct 29, 2022 17:02:36 GMT
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The fiesta was one of those cars that was never a market leader, in a lot of cases it was actually well below average, but because it was a Ford it was cheap due to quantities of scale, and therefore popular.
We all know pretty much all other brands could hand a fiesta it’s ar$e in the hot hatch stakes, especially 205s, but fords marketing still somehow made a decidedly lukewarm hatch cool and desirable. I remember at school the ‘cool dad’ in our year had a mint condition dog dick red XR2i, and the coolest thing ever was when he took 4 of us on holiday camping in it when we were teenagers. It was probably my first proper roadtrip other than family holidays and I can remember it even now. Still doesn’t make me want a fiesta though 😂
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Oct 29, 2022 22:23:06 GMT
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We've had loads of them, first was a 1.4s which my wife loved and still goes on about, for the last 10 years I have had a new ones as a company car (could have any Ford but always chose a fiesta), most have been 1.0 ecoboost and we haven't had a single issue, we love the way they drive. We've now got a puma as they couldn't get a fiesta last time, drives OK but nowhere near as good as the Fiesta, I can't see the appeal myself, it's the size of a fiesta inside but virtually a Focus outside, if I can get a fiesta before they run out I might even buy it and ditch the company car! As recently as 2019 fiesta was the UK's best selling car, strange to stop it now.
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Rich
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Oct 29, 2022 23:53:19 GMT
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Apparently what it took was a goppingly ugly Chinese knock off minature Porche Cayenne lookalike. Errr.. Ora Funky Cat anyone?
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