The end of fiesta

[grumpybadger]

Harking back to an era when ford named their cars after jazz mags it looks like its the end of the road for the fiesta name.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63391466

[rodharris83]

It's a shame as I've always liked these. Guess they'll replace it with ANOTHER small SUV type thing....

[misteralz]

This is the only Anglo-Deutsch crossbreed death I'm upset about this year.

[scrunge]

Four.
Four different varieties of painfully ugly, pitifully underwhelming SUV things.
No family estate, no four door saloon, and now no small hatchback.

The Poomer is basically a Fiesta that ate too many pies, so that's likely what the suits are lining up as the replacement in that segment... yet it sold half what the Fiesta did last year. I fail to see the business sense in canning a good-selling vehicle.

Morons, selling junk to morons.

I learned to drive in a Fiesta, I pity the poor devils who've got to learn to reverse a Poomer with thoselarge rear pillars and high waistline blocking everything.

Edited to (hopefully) sound less like an anti-modern whinge fest. 

[cortinaman]

When I went round the Cologne factory in September there was only one Fiesta production line running (in the peak of production there were four) and they were busy refitting the rest of the factory for electric car production.

Its a shame but sadly a sign of the times.

[welshpug]

Ita not being replaced, just canned, not selling enough and not enough profit in them.

[melle]

Oct 26, 2022 7:29:01 GMT scrunge said:

Morons, selling junk to morons.

When would you have ordered your new Fiesta? You can't blame the "morons" (your words, not mine...) for not caring about what fifth-hand car people may want to buy in 20 years from now...

[stealthstylz]

Pop & Bang map business owners facing ruin.

[welshpug]

Oct 26, 2022 9:14:11 GMT stealthstylz said:

Pop & Bang map business owners facing ruin.

Nah, there's already a Puma st, bigger profit in them for Ford, kids will just get more finance.

[Paul Y]

Simple really.

Ford don't make money selling cars - it is the vans that pay for the rest of the product line, well in Europe anyway.

The Puma is the only car they actually make money on. I know that contradicts the above statement but you know what I mean.

Sad to see it go as I was an apprentice in the Ford garages when it first came out...

Bloody hell I am old.

P.

[j0hn]

Oct 26, 2022 7:29:01 GMT scrunge said:

Four.
Four different varieties of painfully ugly, pitifully underwhelming SUV things.
No family estate, no four door saloon, and now no small hatchback.

The Poomer is basically a Fiesta that ate too many pies, so that's likely what the suits are lining up as the replacement in that segment... yet it sold half what the Fiesta did last year.

Morons, selling junk to morons.

I learned to drive in a Fiesta, I pity the poor devils who've got to learn to reverse a Poomer with those godawful rear pillars and high waistline blocking everything.

Before this gets locked/consigned to the whinge bin:

Oct 7, 2014 13:00:12 GMT HoTWire said:

Hey there,

All forums work in their own unique way, this is how Retro Rides works, some are forum rules, some are just how we approach stuff, it makes up our Modus Operandi:


2) If you haven't got something constructive to say, say nothing
Sure this is stifling your freedom of expression, however I'm not interested in cars you don't like, I'm interested in cars you do. Conducting oneself in a positive manner will result in positivity.


7) Modern cars are not evil
So stop whinging about them

Anyway - I has a White Mk2 1.4S as my second car:

Ford Fiesta 1.4 S Mk2 Road Test 1986 (1) by Trigger's Retro Road Tests!, on Flickr

[rattlecan]

They were a ground breaking little car for Ford. No doubt about it. My brother had a T reg mk1 Kingfisher, which was, would you believe it, Kingfisher blue. My mum then had a brand new mk1 Finesse, which I then had at a year old, great car.
Then about 10 yrs ago I bought a proper mint sunburst red supersport. So mint in fact, I only did about 30 miles in it & sold it, as it was too mint to drive, which isn’t really my bag.

[HoTWire]

My wife has been somewhat enamoured by the ST-200, so mark my words (and I guess it is a safe bet anyway) in a reasonable number of years they will become totally unaffordable, as most of the things she says "you should get one of those" do.

[stealthstylz]

The Mk6/7 or whatever it is Fiesta ST's with the 1.6 Ecoboost in are proper good cars. Engines are very good too, which is surprising amongst the sea of turds that Ford produce.

[fogey]

Better to stop making it than to bastardise it with an electric motor . . .

Yes, I'm a dinosaur . . . . .

[Rich]

Farewell video is quite nice..

[ironmighty07]

Was never a massive fan, had a couple of Mk2 XR2 and a Mk3 1600S which rotten & had the heaviest steering of pretty everything I've owned ever. the memory of a night in Margate and 4 lads sleeping in a Mk1, well somethings are best unsaid😳

But it's a shame, affordable small hatches such as the "fiasco", you could dabble with was the right of passage for many of us into car modification.

[bstardchild]

My mum bought a Fiesta MKI Popular Plus brand new - BBJ 231Y in red - I learnt to drive in that and her previous car Fiat 126

I was into motorcycles more than cars but bought the car off her when she got a new MKII Fiesta - good little car that I though handled well (till I got a 205) - fond memories of cracking the ton (indicated) in it. It educated me that cheap tyres are a false economy (experience is what you get when you don't want it)

[braaap]

Oct 26, 2022 11:57:59 GMT Paul Y said:

Ford don't make money selling cars - it is the vans that pay for the rest of the product line, well in Europe anyway.

One year (back in the 2000s) I read in the news that FoMoCo made more money with financing than with selling cars!

Mate MichaElWoody worked in the prototype plant (forgot the propper name) an was told by an older colleague, that the first fiesta prototypes were based on the fiat 127, can this be true?
In that matter, for the first galaxy generation a lot of chrysler voyager was said to be used as a base car, too.

[rattlecan]

Oct 27, 2022 6:18:14 GMT braaap said:

Oct 26, 2022 11:57:59 GMT Paul Y said:

Ford don't make money selling cars - it is the vans that pay for the rest of the product line, well in Europe anyway.

One year (back in the 2000s) I read in the news that FoMoCo made more money with financing than with selling cars!

Mate MichaElWoody worked in the prototype plant (forgot the propper name) an was told by an older colleague, that the first fiesta prototypes were based on the fiat 127, can this be true?
In that matter, for the first galaxy generation a lot of chrysler voyager was said to be used as a base car, too.

Surely in this world we are in, every manufacturer will make more from finance. It’s sort of ALL they are selling. If you go to a dealer never mind the discount for cash, they don’t want it. They don’t want you buying a car off them, they want to sell you finance. The item they are selling you is now just really a ‘by-product’ to shift finance. All the add ons are the same, tyre, paint, gap insurance etc etc it’s all finance.
It’s true in everything. Go to Argos or where ever & they spend longer trying to sell you insurance on the item you just bought than they did on the item.