alternatives for spraying wax oil stuff

[bmw2101]

Ive seen that sealy gun for cavity wax, its quite a lot of money for something I'm going to use twice. Is there any alternative to that which works? I can only see really poor quality ones on ebay.


I am going to use morris lubricants ankor wax on my metro weekend car, and probably waxoil in the sills of my mini shell ive welded up, and some ankor wax too.

[kevins]

A parafin gun with some clear hose clamped on works pretty well.

[ferny]

This is my go-to product;

bilthamber.com/product/dynax-s50/

[slater]

Schultz/ underseal gun off ebay should be no more than 20quid. Make sure it's one that comes with an injection hose. Make sure the wax is nice and warm and liquid and they work fine.

Yeh, just looked cheapest one is £12.77

[bmw2101]

i have one of the £12.77 type, but its just 4 holes in a bit of brass tube, the sealy one is a slit around a tube. I don't know if it makes much difference, but i don't get how the sealy one is so expensive compared.


I did wonder about 3d pringing a nozzle for my one.

[droopsnoot]

Nov 1, 2022 20:40:07 GMT bmw2101 said:

I did wonder about 3d pringing a nozzle for my one.

I tried getting the hose (a mate had a spare one) and fitting it to one I'd bought that didn't have a fitting for one, and it didn't work at all. I had a quick read on it at the time and have forgotten most of the detail, but it's something to do with the Bernoulli effect - basically you can't just extend the nozzle with a pipe if the pick-up wasn't designed for it. Might be worth a try in case yours is different, though.

I did buy one and have used it successfully. I think mine was a tenner from an autojumble, but it's like this one:

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224618194237

[slater]

Nov 1, 2022 20:40:07 GMT bmw2101 said:

i have one of the £12.77 type, but its just 4 holes in a bit of brass tube, the sealy one is a slit around a tube. I don't know if it makes much difference, but i don't get how the sealy one is so expensive compared.


I did wonder about 3d pringing a nozzle for my one.

Well I don't get what you're after then because that's the tool for the job. Fill it with wax. Stick it in the hole then slowly pull it out while holding the trigger. Slight rotation back and forth doesnt hurt either.

Better off investing on a proper cavity wax like dinitrol than fancy guns.

[nickwheeler]

Nov 2, 2022 9:29:06 GMT slater said:

Nov 1, 2022 20:40:07 GMT bmw2101 said:

i have one of the £12.77 type, but its just 4 holes in a bit of brass tube, the sealy one is a slit around a tube. I don't know if it makes much difference, but i don't get how the sealy one is so expensive compared.


I did wonder about 3d pringing a nozzle for my one.

Well I don't get what you're after then because that's the tool for the job. Fill it with wax. Stick it in the hole then slowly pull it out while holding the trigger. Slight rotation back and forth doesnt hurt either.

Better off investing on a proper cavity wax like dinitrol than fancy guns.

That.

You're not after a mirror paint finish, but splurging gunge into a hole. Buy the cheapest gun you can find, and spend the extra on whichever miracle snot you favour.

[at200]

Which Sealey wax guns do you mean? The only ones I've seen are pretty much the same as the ones other posters have recommended.

I've never had an issue with Sealey stuff but you are paying for the name, the back up, better chance of honouring the warranty, and so on. Lots of similar quality items are available unbranded for less.

As said, the traditional wax guns do the job just fine. I'd spend the money on a quality cavity wax. Bilt Hamber stuff is always good but there are other decent brands.

[bmw2101]

this is the gun


the wax is also the problem, as said " miracle snot you favour." watching the retro power vids, they say that normal waxoil is no worse than any of the other waxoils. I do have a lot of it already, so may just use that.

I think I'm over thinking it all, ill just use the gun i have and maybe extend the tube with some 8mm air pipe to get well into the sills. I have an old suction spray gun, that works very well with hot waxoil in it.

[jgtr]

Bilt Hamber Dynax s50 wax, few cans will do a car

[snoopy]

I use waxoyl in the tin lid off stoos in hot water on the camping stove so waxoyl is hot and thin then pour it into a cheap long nozzle oil gun then spray it into cavities at 60 psi after taping over any exit points so it goes in as a mist that coats everything and starts setting as it hits the cold metal.

[bmw2101]

i did get some dinitrol ml on the weekend for £10 a ltr, and ill use that on places on the metro, but i recon as you say snoopy , ill do that with the waxoil, and stop over thinking the spraying of it.

thanks

[bricol]

The right tool makes the job so much easier and go so much better. The suction guns simply won't lift and propel the stuff well enough unless you can get into cavities every foot or so. The pressurised gun - insert hose into legnth of sill, pull trigger, withraw hose . . . works well. Well worth the 80 quid I paid in saved hassle and agro.

Recommendation with all cavity waxes is to redo every few years - so if you've invested time and money in a project, then protecting it as well as you can makes sense.

I have used Dinitrol - then done more repairs a decade later - but I wasn't aware of the advice to redo the waxing every few years then. I've used Noxudol 700, the stuff that did well in the Classic Cars test some years ago, on the repairs.

But I've also been regularly shoving waxoyl bought cheap 20 yrs ago into my 91 Pug 106 that has lived outside its entire life - and only welding as been to front inner wings inside the engine bay - everything else is original and in good nick.

[bmw2101]

yes thanks, and i just checked for the right gun again, and checked amazon and there is one there for £75!! CLICK HERE

the same for sale i have only seen for £110 or more, but i think at £75 its ok, and i did get the dinitrol for £10 ea.


thanks for the advice.

[bricol]

Just don't do what my mate did when I lent mine to him - dismantled it to clean it . . and lost a seal. Luckily they send you a spare set with it, so when I worked out why it was blowing stuff everywhere other than down the lance, it was easily sorted.

The original seal, or the replacement, have shown no signs of problems in the years I've owned it which must be 20 years or more. Occasional blow throw with white spirit keeps it clear after use/when I remember.

Just for the ease of use crawling around under a car, being able to tip, tilt, rotate the gun any which way (assuming there's a decent quantity of fluid in it) to make getting the lance into wherever you need it, and the lack of hassle of it blowing the stuff where you want it, it's worth every penny.

The hand nozzle thingie is much more useful than I expected - I didn't use it for years, but then wanted to apply underbody wax to my Dodge, so gave it a go and found it very good at applying it where I wanted - as the knurled handle can be adjusted, or even slide right down the hose, you can get it in and around the back of stuff like petrol tanks etc, to get coverage everywhere.

I paid 75 quid for mine back then too - not regretted it once . . . although I do regret loaning it out!

[VeeReihenmotor6]

I have found I get a gun and tube for cavities when I buy a product like dinitrol in bulk - say enough to do a car.

I used Dinitro 3125 for cavities and if I am looking for uniform finsih on the floors I go 3125 primer layer and then 4941 on top. There is another one (model name escapes) that is rubberised and over paintable that is good for wheel wells and floors if you want to paint.

I use Lanoguard over the top of axles and frames etc annually.

[kevins]

A good tip I was once given was to paint the underside of the car a light colour then use a brown or black wax, makes it dead easy to spot where it is getting thin.

[88zxturbo]

Got this in my emails today

www.frost.co.uk/rubberised-coatings/?utm_campaign=1133423_BLACK%20FRIDAY&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=Dot-Digital&country=United%20Kingdom&dm_i=5HSF,OAJZ,4YVOUH,2XTH4,1