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Jul 19, 2023 11:35:52 GMT
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Hello all! I have done a little digging around online trying to identify some Ford flathead parts I have. All the parts came as one lot including two heads, an intake manifold, generator, water pump and a few extra pulleys plus a steering column/box. I’ve not found anything particularly conclusive about the heads. One of the heads has the code 81A 6049A stamped into it. My thinking was that these would probably be V8 Pilot bits seen as I bought them here in the UK, but now I’m not so sure. I’d assume all engine parts match this engine as they’re all painted the same colour blue - other than the generator. The steering column I’ve not looked into, as to be fair I wasn’t quite sure where to start.      I thought I would ask on here if anyone could identify as I know we have a great mix of interests and knowledge on this forum! Any help is greatly appreciated  Photos of everything to be added later once I’ve figured out how on mobile.  |
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2023 11:41:06 GMT by charles97
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Dez
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Jul 19, 2023 14:11:59 GMT
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It’s a series Land Rover steering box. Common swap on model As to improve the steering.
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Dez
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Jul 19, 2023 14:17:43 GMT
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As for the heads, 81a is 1938. They ran for a few years until the 59AB came out- ‘42 I think?
They should be 24 stud so definitely not pilot. All pilots are 21 stud and the heads are easily identifiable as they have massive firing order schematic on them.
Post pics of the parts and I can Proably ID them on sight.
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Jul 19, 2023 16:44:01 GMT
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It’s a series Land Rover steering box. Common swap on model As to improve the steering. Hi, Dez sorry to disagree but that's not a Land Rover steering box, the mounting face is wrong. I did think it might be Mk1 Transit, but the Pitman arm is wrong. Google is failing me at the moment. Colin |
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2023 16:46:01 GMT by colnerov
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Dez
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Jul 19, 2023 16:46:19 GMT
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Actually, you’re right. The pics on my phone where phone all funny and threw me.
Nothing v8 Ford has an alloy steering box though so it’s not really associated with the flathead parts.
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Jul 19, 2023 18:27:02 GMT
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Thank you both for your replies Dez and colnerov! I really appreciate it. I wasn’t expecting answers this quick!   Does this confuse matters then? The code on this head looks to me like it says 59A 6050B. Both heads have Ford stamped on the lower middle when looking from above. 50B appears to have ‘2B’ or ‘28’ cast into the top of the head too. This head is 49A. Other than Ford and the 81A 6049A code on it, it appears to have no other info.   I’ll get photos of the water pump and inlet manifold tomorrow, and better photos of the heads. The steering box was what was really throwing me, I thought it didn’t seem related but also thought it must’ve been of certain age… |
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Dez
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Jul 19, 2023 19:40:20 GMT
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The other numbers are fairly meaningless. 6049 and 6050 are just the numbers for left and right heads. These ran for years, not just on flatheads. The 28 is just a casting number. The date identifier is the first 3 digits. 59a is ‘42-‘48. Tbh they both fairly worthless, especially if they have any corrosion and because they’re not a pair. They’re like 20-30 quid each, if you can find someone who needs them.
The steering box i do not think is ford. It’s rare to get ford parts that don’t say Ford on them. Birmal is what threw me as that’s what Landy ones are. It means it’s made in Birmingham, Ford never had a plant there so it’s more like to be BL or mowog.
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