bstardchild
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OK seeing as it's been bumped ;D Being transfered from Monza Running gear (wheels, brakes, suspension, diff, gearbox and propshaft) Note - Monza is IRS and Commodore is Live axle Engine will be the 3.7 I'm about to start building and run in installed in the Monza - it won't be running TB's and ECU but same system I run on my monza stand alone swing dizzy and carbs (but I have a set of 50's rather than 40's) All the interior will also swap (seats, belts, dash and controls) Cage I am hoping to modify as a result of how I will be transferring the suspension and running gear - better explain....... In a nutshell I am going to cut the now very tired, bent and tatty shell off the monza to leave rear suspension, wheels brakes & tyres, front suspension, wheels brakes & tyres, floorpan, engine gearbox, prop, diff and cage. Then drop the external body of the Commodore over the florpan and weld it all up. By my calculations and measurements it should give me a wide tracked commodore which I can add berg cup style arches to cover the poke on the wheels and tyres. Commodore bodied Monza Oh and I've no intention of road registering it - track only
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rysz
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THAT. IS. AMAZING.
Rysz.
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;D thank god you have told everyone now!!!been trying since you told me to visualise the finished article! looking forward to seeing work in progress
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bstardchild
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;D thank god you have told everyone now!!!been trying since you told me to visualise the finished article! looking forward to seeing work in progress Calcs I'm no good with photoshop - I can just about cope with MS paint - I'm sure someone earlier did a shop in the right colour Visually - Take this outer shell Monza running gear underneath means wheels will poke out between 3 & 4 inches (If my rough tape measurements are good enough) so instead of doing the predictable Steimetz arches (pictured below) which don't really float my boat Make these (Nicked from the mental 126 thread) So sort of like this but without trying to work them into a kit But not so bubble like these Paint a nice Signal Orange, plastic the windows (doors will need a frame - planning to use the Monza one cut and shut to fit) A bit like this one With the 3.7 on 50mm webers it should have ~320 bhp (hopefully) make the same noise as the Monza and weigh in at between 1000 - 1100 kgs Another advantage will be hopefully I can drop the body over the floorpan so it doesn't have the jacked up look the Monza currently has...... Low look with plenty of suspension movement I am planning on putting a different ratio diff in 3.45:1 moving to 3.7 or 3.9:1 as I never use 5th on track except for Marham I reckon it should go acceptably well on track Work starts Sept and it needs to be finished for Feb 2013 as I've kinda booked it's first trackday in France already
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AHA!!! that makes more sense now!! looking forward to it!! planning a trip to nine desguaces later this month! will keep me eyes open cos you never know out here what you may find!!
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bstardchild
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AHA!!! that makes more sense now!! looking forward to it!! planning a trip to nine desguaces later this month! will keep me eyes open cos you never know out here what you may find!! Have fun - have a new set of 17's for it that should also help widen the track a bit 8.5J so at last my slicks will sit flat on the rims
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mmmm commodore............
how will the reg thing go seeing as they're both from the same manufacturer but 10 years apart..........
classed as reshell?
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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bstardchild
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mmmm commodore............ how will the reg thing go seeing as they're both from the same manufacturer but 10 years apart.......... classed as reshell? Track only - I don't intend to put it on the road but having seen Ivor who I'd hoped will do the "transplant" it may use less of the Monza than planned as Ivor reckons it'll be easier and cheaper as well as a lot stronger to use the two ends and leave the middle alone
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Seth
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Ivor reckons it'll be easier and cheaper as well as a lot stronger to use the two ends and leave the middle alone That sounds kinda sensible. Not that there is much sense in these plans. Which is a very good thing ;D
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bstardchild
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Ivor reckons it'll be easier and cheaper as well as a lot stronger to use the two ends and leave the middle alone That sounds kinda sensible. Not that there is much sense in these plans. Which is a very good thing ;D yep - a friend in the ABS offered me a complete and pretty much rust free Monza shell (dent free too) as a straight swap for the commodore but I've been there and done that already........ This plan makes no sense but only a lunatic would have tried to make a track car out of a Monza anyway ;D
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ChasR
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Wow, only just come across this! Looks like you are having fun. That should be a right old beast with a 3.7 Straight 6 under the bonnet .
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K5
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Awesome plans, insane but awesome! However if anyone can carry this off it's you.
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Ah OK, up to speed now Good.
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bstardchild
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