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Jul 23, 2007 18:20:58 GMT
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Blimey, its a reality check innit. still nowt your new grinder and the torch cant fix Hey don't run to far to the scrap pile with that zorst! Hmm second thoughts maybe a bit leary for what i have in mind, hmmm So how come the suspension is off, apart from fixing, is it an all new suspension system going back in?
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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street
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Jul 23, 2007 18:42:03 GMT
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Blimey, its a reality check innit. still nowt your new grinder and the torch cant fix Hey don't run to far to the scrap pile with that zorst! Hmm second thoughts maybe a bit leary for what I have in mind, hmmm So how come the suspension is off, apart from fixing, is it an all new suspension system going back in? Aye I kinda knew it was a bit scabby under there but i was hoping it was a bit more solid further down! Never mind, it makes sense to replace the full chassis rails anyway, just to improve its strength a bit. The suspension will be all front suspension, something i've still got to source! I'll get the hubs from the breakers but I might splash out and get some brand new springs and shocks that match the current ones up front. All the other suspension tat will be easy enough to get. Exhaust is your if you want it! I'm sure we can get it to fit your van in some sort of side exit fashion or another!
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Jul 23, 2007 21:59:53 GMT
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Ace, I see, thought it would just be a matter of poking drive shafts through but i'm showing how naive i am with this one, just better to swap the lot i guess. OK. I'll be at the back of the class watching and learning...
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 26, 2007 18:26:30 GMT
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Not a huge amount of progress, I keep getting rained off! But I did manage to get this done before the next deluge of rain started: I had already mocked up the top of my rear bulhead/back seat framework in wood, so I ust needed to replicate it in steel! First thing to do is cut out some support plates to weld to the shell in order to spread the load of the bar. I screwed it in place just to get the positioning right, then I needed to cut the 2x2" box section steel bar to size. The body shell where the plates are attatched are anything but flat so the ends of the box needs to be filed down to get the coorect profile to ensure a perfect fit. There it is finished, well, wedged in place until I got hold of some more gas for the welder. And thats the beginings of the bulkhead! It's going to have two vertical bars going down to the floor which will also brace the turrets. Then, the gaps will be filled with sheet steel to protect passengers from whirly engine parts and heat! I may also run some bracing from the bulkhead to the rear of the car, but i'll decide that later The suns actually come out now, and I got myself a spot weld remover today so I might spend the rest of the evening removing the chassis rails and the inner wings. A long, noisy, boring job but it needs to be done!
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ewokracing
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I don't quite get the whole "twin engine" thing that happens over your side of the world, but this project's got a lot going for it. coolness.
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Looks like your making good headway, pitty about the grot you have uncovered but I am sure that its only a minor set back!
This is going to be awesome!!!!!!
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Jul 30, 2007 13:48:36 GMT
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I don't quite get the whole "twin engine" thing that happens over your side of the world, but this project's got a lot going for it. coolness. That's interesting, never really thaught that twin engined cars were specific to certain parts of the world.... is that something to do with the construction & use regulations I wonder? I like the idea of twin engines because it's kind of like the solution a child might suggest when asked how to make a car faster! ;D
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Jul 30, 2007 15:04:53 GMT
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I'm not gonna lie to you,when i first saw this thread come to liht i was alittle...y'know... .....but having seen it move forward this far i'vce gotta say i'm well and truly ;D . Can't wait to see the finished article! Just a shame you've found that tinworm, but it is a [glow=red,2,300] Full Of Rust Deposits[/glow] though! :lol: Chris
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Jul 30, 2007 15:07:19 GMT
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I don't quite get the whole "twin engine" thing that happens over your side of the world, but this project's got a lot going for it. coolness. That's interesting, never really thaught that twin engined cars were specific to certain parts of the world.... is that something to do with the construction & use regulations I wonder? I like the idea of twin engines because it's kind of like the solution a child might suggest when asked how to make a car faster! ;D Judging by the info Mr.toyokogyo1976 is from Australia. V8 are obviously common and I would imagine the usual route for more power is a bigger V8 its just what your used to. Us brits didn't get V8 much so I would again imagine we work with what we've got so.......... 2 engines is better than 1, double the capacity and power in one go! Come to think of it all the twin engine cars that spring to mind are british or european........... Dubsports Mk3 Golf twin VR6 turbo engines That red R5 gtt with the two gtt's and I can remember serveral Escorts RS Turbos with twin engines, a powder blue hatch and a Kawazaki green pick-up Anyone think of any J, US or Australian twin engine beasts?
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Jul 30, 2007 18:29:08 GMT
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Robinxr4i- Yeah I didn't think of it that way- I mean we do have some reasonable V8's here but they're only really any good for RWD, so anyone messing about with cars like these have to think outside the box a bit rfchris- Thanks for your honesty! Yeah I don't blame anyone for having a few reservations about the project, it's the kind of daft thing someone says they're gonna do and give up on when they realize all the work ahead and problems to solve! But don't worry, i'm determined to build it, failure is not an option! It won't be long before it all starts going back together and the project will start to make a lot more sense (I hope!). At the moment we're very much in the darkest hour of the project- car in pieces and a load of rot to cut out But we'll get through it!
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Jul 30, 2007 19:02:04 GMT
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UPDATE #4- INVISIBLE CRUSTI think that sums up this stage of the project- crusty bits of steel bieng uncovered at every turn! Heres some of the highlights: Look at the state of that. I was quickly reminded of the time I reversed into a parked Orion when I looked at the dents in the rear quarter. Instead of repairing it properly I just nobbed a bit of filler into it, got bored and then went off to do something else by the looks of it What a mess! That should be enough to put off the hardiest of mk3 Escort fans! A quick assesment of this old wreck revealed it needs at least: - Inner and outer sills (both sides) - Arches (both sides) - inner arches (both sides) - Full chassis rails (both sides) - Rear wing corner bottoms (both sides) - Rear valence - Repairs to boot seal gutter - Repair section in offside quarter glass seam ......And thats just the rear end! Before we go on, I feel I need to justify myself here. This car is clearly beyond economical repair. It's foobared! No one in their right mind would bother carrying out those sorts of repairs on a megre 4 door 1.3L. But, this car is more than just a 1.3L to me- It was my first car and it's value in memories and personal atatchment far outweighs any monetary value. It's kinda like when people restore a historic rally car- sure you could find a better example to restore but the car has a history that you just can't buy, it has become something more than merely an old car. And that's sort of how I feel about this car Ok then, on with the show! It gave me great pleasure to amputate this crusty wheelarch, their shameful condition has been bothering me for years! They're still the origional ones so it's not all bad I 'spose. I trimmed down the edge........ ........Then attacked the inner wing, chopping out the turret and lobbing it on the pile of other obsolete Escort parts. These little brackets were for the back seat, but the new back seat will be in a slightly different position so i drilled out the spot welds and got rid of them. The rear bulkhead will be braced with vertical bars going to the floor. I cut the box section to the correct angle and got my welding gear out. Then realized i'm out of gas (again) so play had to stop again for today! The updates should be coming in thick and fast now that the weather has cheered up a bit, so keep checking in!
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Jul 30, 2007 19:18:42 GMT
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Thought you were going to give up when you found all that rust but I'm proud you didnt
Keep going chap it will be a monster when your done!
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That's interesting, never really thaught that twin engined cars were specific to certain parts of the world.... is that something to do with the construction & use regulations I wonder? I like the idea of twin engines because it's kind of like the solution a child might suggest when asked how to make a car faster! ;D Judging by the info Mr.toyokogyo1976 is from Australia. V8 are obviously common and I would imagine the usual route for more power is a bigger V8 its just what your used to. Us brits didn't get V8 much so I would again imagine we work with what we've got so.......... 2 engines is better than 1, double the capacity and power in one go! Come to think of it all the twin engine cars that spring to mind are british or european........... Dubsports Mk3 Golf twin VR6 turbo engines That red R5 gtt with the two gtt's and I can remember serveral Escorts RS Turbos with twin engines, a powder blue hatch and a Kawazaki green pick-up Anyone think of any J, US or Australian twin engine beasts? actually, V8's are common, but not that common in engine swaps. Most engine conversions these days use Japanese Turbo sixes or small fours, but there are still a hell of a lot of small cars and Australians love 6 cylinder engines too. I think it's more of a case of registration laws varying so much from other countries. Here you can have a car that is legal in one state, and so illegal in another that back in the 1980's, some cars were actually confiscated on the border! a car like this in Australia, if it was modified (and the closest I can think of is the Ford Laser), would either have something like a later model factory turbo motor swapped in, or you would just buy a later model car as they are pretty damn cheap for what you get (ie we got the 4WD turbo model in both Mazda and Ford variations) the only twin engine cars that come to my mind are one off hillclimbing specials. There just arent any around down here.
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I knew you would not give up finding that rust. Thing is for you, it would be tragic to run this car into the ground, its been through so much. what you are doing now is exactly the right thing to do. getting to that rust and fixing with a good attitude is spot on, and you have the time to do it. now or never. looking forward to the next installment!
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Jul 31, 2007 13:47:52 GMT
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LEGEND!
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Jul 31, 2007 16:18:02 GMT
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prooooooooppppppper job, keep it up street, and if the voices say no shout hell yeah back at them, if you need a hand just shout
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Jul 31, 2007 16:26:34 GMT
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Top work! This is my favorite mk3 ever and I cant wait to see it finished! Monster Monster
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Jul 31, 2007 17:01:23 GMT
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I don't quite get the whole "twin engine" thing that happens over your side of the world, but this project's got a lot going for it. coolness. I never understand it either and i live here! In this case its probably less work and cheaper to convert a mk3 escort to rwd and fit a cossie lump, be more powerfull, lighter and better handling i would have thought, BUT having said that, i done especially follow the sensible route when modifying my own cars so i'll wait and see.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Jul 31, 2007 20:00:11 GMT
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Must admit i did not get it but this will be special no doubt. weight over all wheels, power delivered direct to 2 wheels twice - Like 4wd but better. I reckon its gona be reyt beast.
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Its not the cheap and easy way out, but it's definately not the 'done thing'!
I love it!
Hope it still looks the same as it did before though, its hard as nails.
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