MJK 24
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Is the spacesaver not the same as a VW from the same era?
I think your Audi will have originally had/may still have 185/60 R14 wheels/tyres.
That's the same as Scirocco's from the same era (mid 80's). If you need a space saver, I've got one for you.
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Thanks for the offer! Unfortunately VWs have a PCD of 4x100 and 4 stud Audi 100's have a PCD of 4x108
Actually, I think Audi coupes from the 1980s have a PCD of 4x100 too.
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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1986 Audi 100 Avantmilfordcubicle
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I can't remember what PCD mine was, I was erring towards 4x108 but I think you might be right about it being 4x100, the scant info I've found on the net suggests so anyway. What about a space saver from a Ford or Peugeot?
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Ive tried Ford and Peugeot spacesavers, they bolt up fine but just don't fit into the cubbyhole. Its very annoying! The 5 stud Audi spacesaver fits absolutley perfectly though, no struggling or forcing of boot trim panels, it just plops straight in.
I say 5 stud... its now 4 stud...
I decided to have a crack at modding the wheel yesterday. I made a template out of cardboard and marked the loactions of the 4x108 holes and drilled them out slightly larger than needed. I then grabbed one of my old steel audi rims and drilled out the stud location holes with a 2" hole cutter to make a set four of large washers to go over the holes i'd drilled in the spacesaver.
With the spacesaver fitted ot a rear drum I added the wheel bolts and "washers" With the bolts tightened up thouroughly to lock the washers in place I stuck a blob of weld on each of them to hold them in place.
With the spacesaver removed I set about welding the washers onto the spacesaver. The redundant 5 stud configuration was blanked off with strategically placed washers welded over the holes. I have to say its done the trick and looks pretty good! Ive yet to grind down the welds to neaten them up but despite using a cheapo ALDI mig welder for the first time the penetration looks spot on.
With a quick grind and a lick of paint it should look the bizz. Hopefully ill never have the need to ever use it but atleast its there, just incase I tear a side wall on a kerb or somehow mangle a tyre. Ill only ever use it on the rear anyway. In the meantime if an original 4x108 spacesaver wheel pops up ill be sure to grab it.
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Tried Saab 9000 or early Volvo 850? 4/108 there too.
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194? Willys Jeep MB 1965 Volvo 544 Special 1968 Opel Rekord 1975 Opel Kadett Estate 1985 Mercedes-Benz 230E 1985 Datsun 720 King Cab 4x4 diesel 1997 Volvo S70 2.5SE (ex. "Volvo544special65" - changed to more reader friendly username. )
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My brother seen you a few weeks back. Glad to hear this is still on the road.
If I can't get my Saab 9000 running, your more than welcome to have the space saver off it. As volvo554 above said, its the same pcd.
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Dec 20, 2010 20:14:38 GMT
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Many thanks to Rmad for finding this thread for me- the search function didn't seem to want to know as its been so long since the this thread has been updated! Not a huge amount has happened TBH, a new pair of front tyres, a couple of small patches underneath, that sort of thing. Its been up to the north of Scotland and down to the bottom of Cornwall, and everywhere else inbetween. Great stuff! Heres a pic of me changing a wheel on the maestro van trailer we towed up to Scotland and back- Its on the A9 outside Perth. Living the dream eh? Anyway, its not all been fun and games. A week or so ago there was a problem with the ignition system. The coil kept tracking down to earth and causing a weak spark with the result that starting was a pain and often it would only run on 3. Gas consumption was through the roof too. Before I could get round to doing anything in the way of fixing it (i.e within 3 months) there was a slight issue with the air filter filling with gas and a backfire through the carb igniting it all, causing an underbonnet fire. Luckily it was caught in time with damage being restricted to a burnt out and melted air filter housing and a burnt carb- all of the wiring and pipes were damaged too. The engine had appeared to have ingested a few bits of melted air filter housing too. The engine still ran OK on petrol however and any bits of plastic the engine had eaten seemed to have been cleared out without further issues. I was gutted that the engine went up in flames, but I feel damn lucky that the damage was so minimal! Of course, running a gas powered car on petrol is excruciatingly painful, once you are used to ultra cheap gas so a remedy was needed ASAP. A new gas mixer was supplied by TinleyTech, who after dealing with several of my vague and rambling emails identified the correct mixer for me. Its of a different design to the old one and fits directly to the top of the carb. The result is far quicker starting, instant throttle response, zero flat spots, billiard table smooth idling, much smoother running and a quieter engine. Its flipping amazing! Did that little fire actually do me a favour? I'm hoping it betters the usual 18 MPG on gas, too! All I need now is a decent chrome/stainless pancake air filter to chop up and adapt to fit the mixer, if anyone has a spare one lying about. Metal filter housings can't burn! I also replaced the front discs and pads as the pervious set were worn to excess. The NSF caliper is still partially seized though, I was hoping the change in position plus a little exercise in and out would cure the sticky cylinder, alas- no. During the work I found that one outer CV boot had had a bit of bukkake fun with the brake caliper. I feel on a roll at the moment so i'll get cracked on with that over the Crimbo holidays. On Sunday I got the old tub up on ramps and changed a gearbox mount in the freezing cold dark. The old mount has completely disintegrated meaning the gearstick was at a funny angle and the engine could rock about excessively. The stick is now righted and doesn't vibrate about everywhere. The broken exhaust joint can now also be fixed with a degree of permanency, seeing as the engine and wobblyness of the engine will no longer tend to overstress and break it. I do intend to replace the other mount, but its behind the exhaust, doesn't look half as collapsed and perished as the other side and I was cold and hungry. Another job for later I think, but all in all a very productive weekend!
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Dec 30, 2010 20:57:44 GMT
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Took a pic of the old girl today, so here she is! Actual PROOF that it still exists, and wasn't weighed in last year, or something.
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Mar 13, 2011 16:19:04 GMT
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I thought id do a quick update, seeing as I have the opportunity to upload some pics. I'm sure you have all been itching to find out whats been going on! A couple of weeks ago I had a few days off work so decided to get the Audi MOTd while I had the chance, there was a month remaining on the existing MOT but that can be added on to the new MOT. I took the Audi over to Jon Cedric's to have the exhaust downpipe welded up, a duff gearbox mount had put too much stress on it and caused the joint to distort and break apart. The mount had been replaced, but the exhaust was a job I had put off- until It had to be done for the MOT! A straight though pipe was grafted on to the down pipe and slid into the stainless part- no more blows, yay! A spit drive shaft gaiter was also replaced- I had never done one of those, so it was good to have an old pro at hand to guide me. What a messy job!With those bits sorted I was ready for the MOT! FAIL! While it was away at its MOT the Audi had decided to disable its hazard warning lights and horn. The horn was found to be so rusty it had fallen to pieces (I'd imagine a tap from an MOT testers rubber mallet may have helped ) and after much faffing the hazard lights was traced to a defective fuse. Unfortunately I had managed to blow the fuse for the indicators while tracing the hazard problem, which caused much head scratching. However a methodical approach of crying and locking myself in my room soon had this fault fixed too. The free retest resulted in a pass meaning the barge now has nearly 13 months MOT on it. Whoopee! The MOT pass bought me much pleasure, so the Audi was treated to a full valet and a new pair of boot gas struts. No more guillotining my head off in Morrison's car park! A K&N pancake air filter was also bought, modified to fit and added to the intake of the gas mixer- it does look quite good! My pleasure was short lived however as the instrument binnacle began to play up. The fuel and temp gauges failed, as did all of the ignition lights. The alternator also stopped charging meaning I had to take a spare battery with me to work to enable me to get home again. The brush pack on the alternator was changed but no joy. After much head scratching and brain picking a multimeter was used to trace the fault to the instrument cluster itself. Closer inspection showed that a small piece of the flexible printed circuit had a break it it- I still don't know how this happened. An inch of thin wire, carefully soldered in to the circuit to bridge the damaged area had everything back working as it should again. Hooray!! For once in its life with me the Audi was fully functioning with no faults! What a great feeling! Again this was short lived.. A while ago I picked up a used rocker cover, stripped it and resprayed it, its been hanging on the garage wall for months. The rocker cover gasket has been weeping for a while so I took the opportunity to kill two birds and replace the gasket and put the "new" rocker cover on. I had ordered a pair of NOS rocker cover gaskets from ebay and got to work swapping everything over. It was pleasing to see the internals of the engine are still lovely and shiny- LPG does not pollute engine oil so it stays a clean golden colour, meaning that the inside of the engine is always immaculate. With the new parts on the engine looked great- a total contrast to the state of it after the carb fire a few months ago. Before.. After.. I fired it up to check for leaks.... the gasket is leaking even worse that before! I have removed it and refitted but I just cant stop the torrent of oil pouring down the engine block and pooling underneath. How infuriating!!!! Is there a knack to doing these? I have the correct cork gasket and have tightened it down from the centre mountings first.... I will have to have another crack at it tonight. I would love an oil tight engine... maybe thats too much to ask from a high mileage 25 year old car? In this pic you can see one of the pennies epoxied over the injector holes. If its not one thing, its another... I'm still enjoying this Audi though!
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Last Edit: Mar 13, 2011 16:22:06 GMT by Lankytim
1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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mrj
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Mar 13, 2011 16:59:54 GMT
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i'd suspect the valve cover not to be 100% straight, best take it out and put it on an even surface (and bend it back ;D ) Maybe a stupid question, but the cork gasket is 3 piece; the cork itself, and two rubber parts (a blue "half moon" one at the back and an orange one for the front .... if the valve cover is straight, then you could change over to a rubber gasket, you need different bolts for that, though , there is a kit available with the new bolts included. Also there are two different cork gaskets available; with the holes being 6 or 8mm, could be worth a look, too...
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- 1971 VW 1600 TL Fastback - 1978 Passat GLS Variant - 1980 Audi 100 5E - 1981 VW aircooled panel van (sold) - 1983 VW Jetta Mk.I - 1984 VW Polo Coupé - 1984 VW Passat hatchback - 1987 VW Passat Variant - 1987 VW Passat hatchback - 1988 VW T25
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Mar 13, 2011 20:04:59 GMT
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Do you know where I can find one of these kits? Presumably a later style rubber gasket will seal better than an earlier cork gasket. All 3 pieces of the gasket are present and correct:).
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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mrj
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Mar 13, 2011 20:12:31 GMT
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go to an Audi/VW dealership.... or your local motor factors, over here they don't sell the cork ones anymore .... the reason was, that hydraulic lifters were introduced to those engines in 1987 (some exceptions, though) and then the gaskets began to leak, as adjusting the valve clearance wasn't necessary anymore and the gaskets weren't replaced every 2 years...
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- 1971 VW 1600 TL Fastback - 1978 Passat GLS Variant - 1980 Audi 100 5E - 1981 VW aircooled panel van (sold) - 1983 VW Jetta Mk.I - 1984 VW Polo Coupé - 1984 VW Passat hatchback - 1987 VW Passat Variant - 1987 VW Passat hatchback - 1988 VW T25
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Mar 13, 2011 20:18:32 GMT
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Good idea- try Audi! I have used the local Audi dealer for parts in the past and they were very helpful, even ordering parts from Germany for me. My local Volvo dealer laughed at me when I needed parts for my 940!
I can see what you mean with the cork gaskets. This one had been on for around 18 months and was very hard and brittle.
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Mar 14, 2011 21:14:32 GMT
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Took the time to get my overalls on at work and spend my lunch hour trying to re-seal the rocker gasket. The rocker cover is straight (well, as far as I could tell) but one of the studs at the front of the engine was loose, with that wound back in and the gasket re-set the leak seems greatly reduced. There is still a bit of a weep, and the loose stud felt like it may be trying to strip its thread out of the cyl head as I tightened it. This probably explains the weep! I will have to tap the hole out and restud it, although I may try a bit of thread tape first! I'm still pretty pleased though.
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Last Edit: Mar 14, 2011 21:16:34 GMT by Lankytim
1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Mar 16, 2011 19:46:39 GMT
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After adding the new air filter, the idle speed was all messed up- presumably as theres now a different amount of vacuum acting on the mixer. Anyway, adjustment is a simple matter of twiddling a brass nut on the side of the vapouriser until the correct idle speed is found- easy! With the cam cover off I noticed that theres a bit of an oil leak from the cam down the front of the engine, then I noticed that the cam seal had worked its way out and up against the cam pulley! This seems to explain the leak but I have no idea how its worked out like that. A quick prod with a screwdriver had it pushed back home. Lets see if the leak disappears! Talking of leaks, I have been googling the rocker gasket conversion kit that MrJ mentioned. Definitely seems the best way to go for a leak free motor. Just need to track one down!
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Ratchet
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Mar 16, 2011 23:05:07 GMT
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There the same as the mk3 golf ones iirc, i fitted a mk3 golf one to my mk2 gti after i had the same issue with the cork type, got a genuine vw one from gsf from what i remember. didnt have to change the studs tho? The cork ones have a habit of slipping out of position if you overtighten it, even after using silicone sealer it wouldn't seal properly
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Mar 18, 2011 22:43:02 GMT
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I made the mistake of fitting a rubber gasket when I did the head swap- the oil leak was so bad it was like I didn't have a gasket on at all!
I have just remembered, I have a spare 2.0 engine from an Audi 80 in the shed, i'm sure that has the later style studs, ill just nick those and see if it fixes the problem!
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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