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pac1982 Part of things ?And on the eighth day, god created the Astra GTE.? Posts: 162	Small Turbo pac1982 @pac1982
	Sept 3, 2008 23:00:28 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Small turbo I’m looking for a bit of help or even just some idea’s, I fancy fitting a small turbo to a 170cc 4 stroke scooter engine. So far I’ve found this one on ebay………… cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170257086439&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007 I though this would do at first but after a bit more research found that this particular one is cooled by both oil and water, seeing as the 170cc engine is air cooled I really need a turbo that’s oil cooled only. I’ve investigated some small car turbos such as a smart car turbo but its part of the manifold so is no good to me. Anyone got any good suggestions?
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rtlkyuubi Posted a lot Low and Slow Posts: 2,922	Small Turbo rtlkyuubi @rtlkyuubi
	Sept 3, 2008 23:21:49 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	get a water pump and rad of a modern scoot and plumb it in just for the turbo.


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deejay Part of things WELSH DRAGGIN' Posts: 634	Small Turbo deejay @deejay
	Sept 4, 2008 0:06:50 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	You don't need to use the water side of the turbo mate... just leave the ports open, it'll work fine. ;D


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sammm Posted a lot [][] Posts: 1,931	Small Turbo sammm @sammm
	Sept 4, 2008 3:58:31 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	All I can add is a vague memory of turbo pulse wave problems on single cylinder engines and a pic for inspiration. Edited because I remembered this one www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105114.0 Part 2 www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=115334.msg1124676
	Last Edit: Sept 4, 2008 4:01:01 GMT by sammm Mk2 Zephyr Utility BMW E12 520 1972 Toyota CROWN SE 1977 E3 3.0L 1973 E3 2500

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alecw35 Posted a lot Posts: 1,211	Small Turbo alecw35 @alecw35
	Sept 4, 2008 20:37:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	use a hoover turbo


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An Fear Ó Dhoire Posted a lot Derry Dude Posts: 1,115	Small Turbo An Fear Ó Dhoire @doireman
	Sept 5, 2008 9:54:54 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Could you not cut the manifold off the smart's turbo?
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xbo11ox Posted hell of a lot Literally 'an embarrassment' Posts: 6,985	Small Turbo xbo11ox @xbo11ox
	Sept 5, 2008 10:02:14 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I don't know how youre going to do this.... The Smart turbo is a garrett GT12 , the Smart engine is about the smallest its used on (normally you find these on oldish 1.0-1.6 litre non-VNT diesel engines). Your 170cc engine is about a tenth the size of the engines normally used, what engine speed does it run at? even if its twice normal 'car engine speed' this turbo is going to be hugely oversized, the mass flow through your engine at full chat will be barely enough to wake it up.
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TerraRoot Posted a lot Posts: 1,685	Small Turbo TerraRoot @terraroot
	Sept 5, 2008 10:40:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	what engine is the 170? gilera? does a high VE have anything to do with turbo sizeing?
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xbo11ox Posted hell of a lot Literally 'an embarrassment' Posts: 6,985	Small Turbo xbo11ox @xbo11ox
	Sept 5, 2008 12:53:49 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	t does, but only because it affects the mass flow which along with the boost pressure required, are the two key factors in choosing your turbo (compressor side). VE is variable from one engine to another, but the effect of VE on the mass flow is negligible compared to the effect of going from a 1700cc engine to a 170cc engine.
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mason Part of things Posts: 601	Small Turbo mason @mason
	Sept 5, 2008 13:33:41 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	smallest turbos i have come across are off a forklift.


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grizz Probably posted too much REZIN ROCKIT......🚀 Posts: 28,504	Small Turbo grizz @grizz
	Sept 5, 2008 20:24:45 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Is there not some scooter out there with a Turbo on it as standard production
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xbo11ox Posted hell of a lot Literally 'an embarrassment' Posts: 6,985	Small Turbo xbo11ox @xbo11ox
	Sept 5, 2008 21:12:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I don't know! I'd love to see the turbo off one though!
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TerraRoot Posted a lot Posts: 1,685	Small Turbo TerraRoot @terraroot
	Sept 6, 2008 1:19:28 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	think it is supercharged, off to have a google. Peugeot jet force 20 bhp from 125cc. www.elsberg-tuning.dk/the%20bikes.html this guy how ever is the daddy, loads of info supercharger is too big? just gear it down. he lists these as options The smog pump - cheap and plentiful. Used on automobile engines since late sixties. The Aisin AMR300. From Subaru Kei- car - 660cc supercharged citycar. The KF Max10- 25. American aftermarket blower. The Hansen V12. Made especially for supercharging Kart- engines from 5- 20hp my google-fu is strong too night.
	Last Edit: Sept 6, 2008 1:36:43 GMT by TerraRoot Dirty gritty and on fire the perpetual build thread and blog My Build thread

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pac1982 Part of things ?And on the eighth day, god created the Astra GTE.? Posts: 162	Small Turbo pac1982 @pac1982
	Sept 6, 2008 1:44:42 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I think the bike you’re talking about is the Peugeot Jet force Compressor, would be a nice engine swop but way to much work converting the GY6 engine to run a pug charger. I’ve heard there are company’s in the USA who can supply turbo kits for 110-250cc pit bikes but I’m yet to find one. A few pics of the Pug………..
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pac1982 Part of things ?And on the eighth day, god created the Astra GTE.? Posts: 162	Small Turbo pac1982 @pac1982
	Sept 6, 2008 1:47:06 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Sept 6, 2008 1:19:28 GMT TerraRoot said: my google-fu is strong too night. Nice one matey excellent post!
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grizz Probably posted too much REZIN ROCKIT......🚀 Posts: 28,504	Small Turbo grizz @grizz
	Sept 6, 2008 6:09:36 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	That's the one I was thinking of. I wonder if you PM Norm "BlitzRacing" to see if he can point you in the right direction. He knows a lot, and works in racing circles, so my know a tuner just by chance. Good luck anyway. Looks interesting , if not challenging.
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Adam Posted hell of a lot Posts: 7,010	Small Turbo Adam @locoster
	Sept 6, 2008 16:07:01 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Didn't d.p. do a lot with scooters? What happened to him, is he still on here? EDIT he hasn't posted since july.... retrorides.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=dp might be worth an email though!
	Last Edit: Sept 7, 2008 8:59:05 GMT by Adam 1997 TVR Chimaera 2009 Westfield Megabusa

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grizz Probably posted too much REZIN ROCKIT......🚀 Posts: 28,504	Small Turbo grizz @grizz
	Sept 7, 2008 8:49:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Sept 6, 2008 16:07:01 GMT Adam said: Didn't d.p. do a lot with scooters? What happened to him, is he still on here? EDIT he hasn't posted since july.... retrorides.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=dp, might be worth an email though! Profile does not exist...... Google "dpmotech Mosta Hill, Sweden " and see if you can contact him directly.
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Adam Posted hell of a lot Posts: 7,010	Small Turbo Adam @locoster
	Sept 7, 2008 8:59:20 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Works now that i've removed the comma
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grizz Probably posted too much REZIN ROCKIT......🚀 Posts: 28,504	Small Turbo grizz @grizz
	Sept 7, 2008 10:10:48 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Just been GOOGLE-ing DP Race tech Mosta Hill Sweden, and all the stuff it throws up, including forum links he has subscribed and entered into come to a halt in June/July 2008..... Wonder if something has happened to him ?
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