slater
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The otherday i purchased myself a new daily drive, a 1.1 Talbot Horizon. Nice car for the most part, not too rusty, drives well etc. Cant be complaining for £220! Just wondering if anyone out there knows much about them? ive managed to work out that the later ones were fitted with a 5 speed BE1 gearbox and thats pretty much the same as whats fitted in pug 205s and stuff i think. The simca 1.1 engine was defiantly used in the early 309s so I'm thinking there must be a swap on somewhere! mi16 on a 205gti box? 1.9 turbo diesel? anyway i was thinking my best bet might be to get hold of a later car with a 5 speed and see if i could salvage some of the mounts off it. My main concern is getting a 5speed in there really as the standard box is awful, cant miss a trick with a sneaky power upgrade tho! in addition in need parts (wings, interior bits etc.) so if anyone knows where i may be able to aquire such goods speak now! (scrappers etc.)     www.flickr.com/photos/rootes_arrow/2865832209/slater |
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Hirst
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Hey Slater, glad to see you've returned to proper car colours. Looks like a top car too, I like these Horizons. Nice work!
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alex77
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so cool had one as my daily when i first passed my test. It was an end of the line 1.1
on a c plate ans was quite quick really. Had the same engine as a 309 the one that looks on the slant. Mine was a 4 speed withe the gap in the gate for five speed never did find out why. It was a le car special edition.
I had it for about two years and seem to remember a lot of welding being needed round the rear suspension.
sorry was not as into cars then so don t remember much else but had much fun in it .
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1978 Capri MK2 Ghia Zetec
1990 Ford escort mk4
1996 Nissan Rasheen
1998 Honda CRV (my wifes)
2002 Alfa 156
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Can't wait to see how this turns out !  |
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You've been telling me you were a genius since you were seventeen ... in all the time I've known you I still don't know what you mean !
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Looks like another awesome Slater project in the making. Will be keeping an eye on this fella  |
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l Talbot horizon - never try to change a 4 speed horror into a 5 speeder. it doesnt fit and isnt worth the bother. I'll elaborate... Nothing fits. flywheel, starter, clutch, driveshafts and hubs are all inexplicably different between the 4 speed and the 5, even the bellhousing pattern changed so only 2 bolts line up, and even after I went to all that trouble, I ended up with an equally poor and rubbery feeling gearshift, with a top gear the engine couldn't pull and a new annoying habit of selecting fifth instead of third. Fair enough, swap an engine and five speed from somethng else related, that shouldn't be too bad, but don't try to fit a 5 cogger. I did, and I wish I hadn't. On a side note, I still have the haynes manual. Want it? I'm never gonna use it again! |
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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slater
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Yeh i suspected it wouldnt be a quick swap on the gearbox front. They must have mated it all together somehow tho. I think the best bet is to get a whole 5speed car and liberate the relevent bits. Theres got to be a few rusty Talbots out there!
i have allredy accumilated 2 manuals! but thanks for the offer
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Yeh I suspected it wouldnt be a quick swap on the gearbox front. They must have mated it all together somehow tho. I think the best bet is to get a whole 5speed car and liberate the relevent bits. Theres got to be a few rusty Talbots out there! yeah, they got the BE1 to fit by changing everything including the bellhousing pattern on the simca engine, which is what I had to do too (I chose to ignore the two bolt bellhousing situation - I was well sick by that point.. What I had assumed would be a simple box off/box on job turned ito a week long saga that cost more than the car was worth. Really, the simplest thing would just be to drop the whole lot in from a later horizon or an early 309, but when I did it (back in about 1992) that was too expensive to consider, so I was buying scrapyard bits. |
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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right i have actually seen a pug1.6gti engine and box in a horizon, must have been 15 years ago now but i remember the lad telling me it wasnt to bad a job to do. i do remember it had a jag fuel pump and it was gold five door. very very sleepy car indeed.
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slater
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the main thing I'm unsure of is the engine mounts, whether i would need to make some or if theres something out there that would fit with the right combo of parts. That and where to attuly get all the parts i would need!
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