Hachiroku cartoons

[SeventyNine]

like this:



and like this:




i had a blast of my own:




;D ;D ;D

[racer86]

Thats quality, you should colour it in!, i really must get Potoato shop sorted out on my computer.

[SeventyNine]

anyone else got any cool manga/J/W.H.Y cartoons of cars?

[tonycocacola]

thats excellent mate.
you should colour it, and bring it to life.

[goaferboy]

that is awesome. it just needs a motion trail thing behind it like the first one and it will be perfect. very nice picture

[arthurbrown]

*Am I the only one who doesn't quite understand this AE86 thing*

[SeventyNine]

they 'look' like just another J car, but i spose its all in the driving of one really. and ive not driv one

[MWF]

arthurbrown said:

*Am I the only one who doesn't quite understand this AE86 thing*

Surely you do -understand- it Nick really, it's got kudos from its cult appeal due to Initial D and in turn Keichi Tsuchiya.

[arthurbrown]

Still doesn't justify the frankly obscene prices that people will pay for one....

£10k for 120bhp doesn't really add up, does it? (No matter how well they 'drift')

[WillCarter]

Just one of those cars, who would have thought that Mk1 Escorts would be fetching nearly £20k 15 years ago.

[MWF]

arthurbrown said:

£10k for 120bhp doesn't really add up, does it? (No matter how well they 'drift')

It does when you consider a lot of people will idlise the tools of their mentors and beleive that by owning them they will somehow buy into the image.

I bet Charger values went up after the Dukes of Hazzard movie (already high from the tv show) and just look at the popularity of Shelby GT500's since Gone In 60 secs. Similar again would be the value of Ford Falcon XB's in Australia due to the Mad Max Interceptor.

I guess the large irony behind the '86 was that in Initial D the car was something the star was stuck with and nobody admired. It's only real advantage being its suitability for downhill touges and the drivers skills (brought on by the cars low power). It was never something to aspire to. Keiichi Tsuchiya who was the basis behind the Initial D stories has a fondness for the car because it was in this the mass public got to see his downhill oversteering technique which helped him win the Fuji Freshman racing series. So rather daftly the car was never made famous for its drifting ability, it was due to being linked to someone strongly associated with the modern D-series drifting that's highly fashionable today.

Just imagine if Advan have never have sponsered Tsuchiya and he'd somehow demonstrated his unusual skills in a different car. The 86 would be barely heard of over here and probably worth very little.

[Hirst]

AE86's were worth very little until a few years back here, they used to go for £500 all the time!

I knew them because they were on all the Japan racer games.

[Nick]

i don't like the prices of them, but if you drift/drive one, you'll find they do live up to their reputation, the 4age is a gem, great weight distirbution, id never pay for one at todays prices but they are such a pure drivers car. far better than an escort.

[PhoenixC]

I agree with Nick B there is no way that AE86`s should be worth upto 10 grand.

In the UK they were always more famous for circuit racing (BTCC champions two years running) and rallying and had quite a cult following long before drifting became popular.

I remember the 1990 RAC Rally and around a 1/3rd of all the 190 entries were corolla GT`s Levins Trueno`s and sprinters.
And it was largely due to this that I decided to get one.

I paid £800 for a rough one in 1995 had it for 5 years as a daily driver did 70,000 mile in it and it was the most enjoyable car I have ever known. Not the fastest car in the world by any means. But with such a useable rev range it feels quicker. Also resulted in me loosing my licence after driving on the A1 at Darlington down to Doncaster custom car show averaging between 120-140 all the way
In the time I had mine I used to rev it to the red line pretty much every day and apart from a thirst for Castrol RS. I never had any problems with it. I kept buying other cars while I had it because it was starting to rot but I couldnt find anything else I enjoyed driving as much. In the end I had to scrap it as it was too far gone for me to repair (at the time) and the engine and box was donated to my brother in laws avenger rally car.

There used to be quite a few round this area but over the last 10 years most have moved to Ireland originally as tarmac rally cars and its only the last couple of years when the prices have gone really silly. A car that would cost 2,000 two year ago would now be 7,500. Which is stupid when you can get a silvia S12 for around 500 quid and thats the closest car to the AE86 that I have ever driven similar size and weight also excellent handling but actually has better brakes and more power only down side is no LSD and the engine sounds like a 1.0 micra.

I will own another in the future but not at those prices.

[Hirst]

I find it strange too how the MK1 MR2 has the same engine yet the price of that hasn't altered at all!

[Snoozin]

I have been trying to put forward this view of AE86's for quite some time..... even though they are a wonderfully involving and fun drive, (definitely on a par with the Sud I think)I don't believe they should command the ridiculous prices people are paing for them. I've had a bit of a fascination with the AE86 however since I saw my first AE86 rally car (very popular for rallying over here some years ago)......

And the sad thing over here is, a lot of cowboys are buying them, and ruining them....

[Nathan]

Initial D, god its been ages since I watched that. Have to crack out the DVD's.

I dunno about the prices as i generally don't look, but style wise I love em.

[autohausdolby]

I thought they were still worth 500 quid! It's strange how something can completely pass you by!

[SeventyNine]

ive been watching a lot of inital d over the last 2 days, got me ma to order me the first series on dvd for christmas ;D

[BuddyJ]

I'm watching the fansubs of the 4th Series right now. Gotta say I love Initial D.

That being said, I was a Toyota fan prior to watching the series. Guess I always have been. I've looked here in the US for an 86, but the prices here are just as retarded. What's worse is the non-GTS models are fetching similar prices. And over here, the Mk1 MR2 is going up in price as well. I tried to get a 85 MR2 SC with 110k miles on it from a stealership and they wouldn't let it go for anything under $4k USD. That's with a crapped out suspension, dodgy trim and buggered window motors.