rtlkyuubi
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Sorry if this is off topic, but its to do with taking pictures of cars  Anyway, ive been using point and click camera's for a year or 2 now and I really enjoy using them, untill I went to A52 and had a go with Bruce's dslr and christ! It takes epic shots  Because of that, ive pretty much lost my mojo with a point and click and have been looking at getting my 1st dslr. Ive recently got given a modern scooter than I'm tidying up and gonna sell to fund for a dslr. I rekon I could sell the scooter for about £400ish, so I'm wondering what to get? ;D after looking through spec sheets and comparsion charts, my head exploded from all the jargon, but i seem to have come to some sort of conclusion that I could get a used canon 40D for that sort of money. I'm just wondering if I could get that camera, or something better for that price, I want to buy a used one and if I have to, blow the whole budget on the body and then save up later for a lens. Also I'm wanting to get a used on so I can get a better one for the money. So, any recomenations?  some of my point and click photo's       |
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I bought a Sony A200 with 2 lenses brand new for £350 and it does everything perfectly...the thing about cameras like any other technology is "brand names" yes canon and nikon are good, but you pay alot more for the name. Sony for instance bought out Minolta and rebranded a couple of years ago and because they were new to the market (and still technically are new) they were cheap and very good quality! imho at a better quality than canon etc. you do pay an extra £100+ more for the same thing when comparing companies like sony and nikon. don't spend too much on a top of the range camera as you will never need all the uses they offer. you can still get all extras, like flashes and grips etc and cheaper because its for the lower model. Another good thing about sony is that you can pick up cheap minolta lenses and they fit  Another thing about these cameras is, it really helps to get someone to spend a few minutes with you to explain everything and put it to use. Iv been taught all i need to know at uni, that's why I bought one. But for people who aren't at uni read books and information to help. Watch Youtube tutorials to help as well. HTH a little bit. don't worry about the jargon and also remember its not always about megapixels! the lense is what makes the picture! |
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rtlkyuubi
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Aug 14, 2010 10:01:55 GMT
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Thanks for the infomation. This is the kind of stuff I was hoping people would tell me about After reading the review on dpreview.com, it sounds like a really good camera and after searching ebay, ive picked on up with 18-70mm lens and some other goodies for £230! Normally I would wait for other people to answer but I thought at that price its a good deal and if I don't like it, I can always sell it back on for that price. |
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Aug 14, 2010 11:32:37 GMT
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I bought a Sony A200 with 2 lenses brand new for £350 and it does everything perfectly...the thing about cameras like any other technology is "brand names" Where do get your lenses from? I've got the same camera but noticed the lenses I have bought need some sort of adapter? |
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Aug 14, 2010 16:53:25 GMT
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Too bad I didn't get here earlier to warn you off Sony. They're not bad cameras and are alright for beginners who just want to stick with the kit lens, but if you expect you'll be wanting to upgrade stuff in the future be prepared to pay out of the  for it. |
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rtlkyuubi
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Aug 14, 2010 21:10:43 GMT
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Too bad I didn't get here earlier to warn you off Sony. They're not bad cameras and are alright for beginners who just want to stick with the kit lens, but if you expect you'll be wanting to upgrade stuff in the future be prepared to pay out of the  for it. I ended up being silly and impulse buying lol but I don't mind tbh. I don't need the best straight away and when I 'grow-out' of this camera, i can always sell it on and something more expensive. |
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exactly that was my theory...the thing is when you do start getting into it, you will understand that you will want to keep this basic camera with lets say the wide 18-70 lense and then buy a more expensive camera and get a big telephoto lense or something, cos when your at shows it pisses me off having to change lenses lol i got my camera from jessops and it came with the standard 18-70 and a cheap ass Tamron 70-200....but I have got some fantastic shots with it regardless. I personally do like my landscape scenery so I went and bought a £400 sigma super wide lense 10-20, but now with the new Photoshop CS5 that is proving useless cos you can automatically join photos in a panorama lol anyways that is getting off the point.... the principle is the A200 feels good in the hand and makes a fantastic sound when taking photos haha much better than any others! eventually in the future like me you will want to get a grip with an extra battery as you will find it more use able. That will be my next purchase..... You will also find that the battery (even in below minus temperatures) is fantastic! I went camping for a week in scotland and didnt charge it once, and took over 1000 photos, I was very impressed! I use a 4GB memory card and that can hold way too many photos than I can handle and because its not massive it is relatively safe, as the larger the card the more likely the memory card will fail and that means loss of photos  don't ask me why cos I don't know lol |
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oh yeah that also reminds me... get UV filters if possible...it protects the delicates from the sun, and also over time you will notice that the mirror shutter will get dusty, but DO NOT touch it! get a blower cleaning kit thing... also don't buy lenses from abroad, I got caught out buying one for cheap in america and it ended up being the same price in this country with tax etc lol my badddd |
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The uv filter will also protect the lens. At least it did that for me. Probably would have ruined the lens if I didn't have a filter!
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My son has just finished the first year of a professional photographer course. Rather than keep on using the uni cameras I decided to buy a low end DSLR camera for myself that he could borrow. After looking at the various quality makes both new and secondhand I settled on an Olympus E420 deal that included 2 lenses for around £450.
Does everything, and more, that I want as a DIY photographer and have never been "under spec" for my son.
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berendd
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Got a base spec Nikon D40, and it's awesome, also bought a cheap tamron 30-300 lens with is and that proves to be quite an OK lens. Good thing with Nikon is that they use standard SD cards, which are the cheapest. Sony always uses these stupid memory sticks that are way too expensive. most of the pics on my picasa is shot with the Nikon, some older albums are done with a Panasonis Lumix TZ-1 (semi point and shoot) picasaweb.google.com/berendd |
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i would have given a big thumbs up for the canon 40d, i use mine all the time its wickedy wick. very versatile and the image quality is spot on examples of 2 taken this week using this camera   |
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Aug 16, 2010 10:18:41 GMT
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Plan ahead. If you stick with canon/nikon you can build up a few real nice lens and just upgrade body's. two or three good prime lens, and a couple of zooms should suit all occasions. And by sticking with the big boys you can also hire lens very reasonably.
If you get a canon get a 50mm 1.8. Great buy for £65.
I've also got a 5d mk1 for sale if you're interested. Want £700 ish though. Barely used as a backup camera. Full frame is what its about personally.
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Aug 16, 2010 12:05:50 GMT
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Got a base spec Nikon D40, and it's awesome, also bought a cheap tamron 30-300 lens with is and that proves to be quite an OK lens. Good thing with Nikon is that they use standard SD cards, which are the cheapest. Sony always uses these stupid memory sticks that are way too expensive. most of the pics on my picasa is shot with the Nikon, some older albums are done with a Panasonis Lumix TZ-1 (semi point and shoot) picasaweb.google.com/berenddSony actually use CF cards in the earlier models...now it appears alot of camera makers are using stupid SD cards which are very unsafe cards to use! |
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rtlkyuubi
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Aug 18, 2010 21:57:23 GMT
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Aug 18, 2010 22:30:37 GMT
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you want to get out of auto, its just another point and shoot otherwise. get into 100% manual ftw
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Aug 18, 2010 23:22:36 GMT
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yeah but to use Manual you will need to learn about shutter speed, ISO and depth or field! this is where youtube may help pics look cool! I personally use the A selection as all I then need to control is the thingy ma bob...forgotten what its called lol anyway hope you have fun! |
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awoo
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oh no! if you have to learn something that might be a hassle...
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berendd
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a and s are also easy to use, can't go wrong and so much more control A=aperture en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperturewide aperture (or low number) give a small depth of field (as in your engine pics) closed aperture gives a deep field s=shutter slow shutter creates movement in pictures fast shutter gives the opportunity to capture fast moving elements basically I allways use aperture setting, sometimes combines with shutter adjustment or ISO when lighting is bad and use Shutter when you want to shoot moving elements |
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Aug 19, 2010 12:04:54 GMT
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I just woke up and remembered what it was called but you beat me to it! lol |
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Anyway, ive been using point and click camera's for a year or 2 now and I really enjoy using them, untill I went to A52 and had a go with Bruce's dslr and christ! It takes epic shots 
don't ask me why cos I don't know lol
