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Thought I better start a thread about our fleet. So starting at the beginning, so the first car I ever owned was this, a 1973 VW GT Beetle Which got painted.. And then I set about learning as much as I could about it and started modding..
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By this time I was working at a VW Importer and Restorer as an apprentice. I'd always wanted a van always a commercial over a camper and always a split but after driving and working on them I decided I'd prefer a bay. It came about that we had a right hand drive, early bay single cab due in from Oz, as it was an extremly rare beast and a commercial I had to have it and the beetle sadly had to go. I wouldn't mind finding out where the bug is if anyone comes across it! So June 2007 and I get this... and I have some work to do which shat all over my plans to run it as a ratter (which was cool at the time, much like Pat Sharp's mullet and ford peppermint green was back in the day) By January 07 I was chopping it up And curse word up a pretty servicable caddy tailgate May 08 and things were still looking pretty serious And this was the first time I painted it I wasn't happy and had another go a few days later. July 08 and it was moving under its own power The engine detonated itself on the way back from DVLA inspection and gaining roadworthyness so in November 2008 I swapped crankcases 2009 and I'd changed jobs to another bodyshop, the van was getting some serious use too July 2009 Feb 2010 May 2010, picked up the bows at that show, still not got them fitted Sept 2010 and I made a new zaust November 2010 and we'd just moved into our first house. I also made this out of an old bed frame so I could fit this... Which brings us to now, the winter took its toll on the van, and there was a slight incident involving my mrs daily being started in gear and running into the van so a repaint is on the cards The full restoration diary for the van can be found here: forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2264&start=0I'm not going to post it all here as its pretty epic.
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Which brings us to the herald! I've seen a few on here and I'm hoping you'll be able to answer my questions! I'm a qualifed panel beater, mig and tig welder. Doing mechanicals on aircooled vws is second nature, but classic british tin is something new to me (apart from welding it up which I have plenty experience of, currently have a MGB GT in at work, see the link in our sig, we have photos of the on going resto on that on the facebook page, however I only get chance to take the welder to it inbetween jobs so its not progressing as quickly as I'd like) My missus has wanted a Herald since she could drive apparently but ended up with a 52 plate corsa. So it turns out a customer of the mechanics next door to us is selling a 63 Herald for £600. He's owned it 5 years and it was last MOT-ed 2 years ago, since then its stood outside or in a car port. My missus 21st is this year so I thought it might make a nice present. So we go to view it, I'm expecting a complete wreck. To my suprise it runs (and sounds sweet) and drives, and the bodywork isn't that bad! Ok its been brush painted and theres some rust coming through on the front arches the boot floor has been patched but thats not a problem. So we have ended up with this: And some spares and some books I think there still might be some more bits to come including a fibreglass rear valence. The plan for the moment is to get it MOT-ed and road worthy before taking it off the road for a restoration.
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Nice fleet! It was good seeing the Bug evolve as I read through the thread. Looks like the Bay gets plenty of use - just as it should be! As for Triumphs, I've learned a lot in my year of Bond ownership (steep learning curve!), but there's plenty of knowledge on RR about these. That looks like a very nice Herald. They're so simple mechanically, it's definitely the easiest car I've ever worked on!
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Herald looks sweet! Wish mine had the early dash with the recessed switches.
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Herald looks sweet! Wish mine had the early dash with the recessed switches. Well theres something I've just learnt! See its this kind of stuff I won't be able to get out the workshop manuals. Been lurking on your thread to get some idea of what I've got to look forward to. Is the lighter blue on your car Powder Blue? When we get round to painting ours its looks like we'll be going for powder blue and sebring white as I think this might be period correct, just need to find out where to mask the split off as I've seen a couple of variations. Out of interest would you reccomend joining club triumph or sports six?
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b7
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2012 BMW 520d Touring MSport 2006 Golf GTI TSI Previous 1965 Triumph Herald 12/50 in Royal Blue 1989 BMW 325i Convertible (C2.7 powered)
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chip83
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nice fleet there
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Quashqui and Yeti (needs must currently) SAAB 93 EST (Sold) Volvo S40(sold) Volvo V40(sold) MK2 astra aka "THE SHED"(sold) Mgb GT (crashed) Peugeot 405(sold) Orion 1600i (sold) Metro (scrapped) Mk1 Fiesta (Broken for spares) Mk5 Cortina (crashed)
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Mar 10, 2011 19:02:17 GMT
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Your title states Herald 12/50? Thats a 1200 is it not? Being a 63 though it's an early 1200, with the smaller front indicators, Earlier heater box and early recessed dash. I had a '65 12/50 that took me 11 years to restore. Did 2 show seasons in it then sold it in 2004. Wonder if DYU474C is still out there? It was the second oldest Triumph known in paint code 56 (Royal Blue), the Earliest being a 65 Vitesse. That's a nice looking car, something to aim for! Although I think my other half wants me to get this one sorted in less than a decade though! Well it says 12/50 on the logbook and thats what I've been told by the seller, and from my research 63 was the first year of the 12/50 so it seemed plausable to me but if it is a 1200 it would explain the missing sunroof. I just assumed it had a roof swap to cure a leak at some point! Is there a way of telling from the chassis number? Think I'll be getting stuck into the brakes on saturday afternoon
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Mar 10, 2011 19:26:27 GMT
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there's still one sat in D+B scrappy at Nottingham, pretty much complete but doubt it'll go on the road again.
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Mar 10, 2011 20:07:12 GMT
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there's still one sat in D+B scrappy at Nottingham, pretty much complete but doubt it'll go on the road again. Thats interesting to know, wheres D+B, I'm only familar with Podders out that way? Are you still with Dubliminal?
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b7
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Mar 10, 2011 20:20:27 GMT
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Your title states Herald 12/50? Thats a 1200 is it not? Being a 63 though it's an early 1200, with the smaller front indicators, Earlier heater box and early recessed dash. I had a '65 12/50 that took me 11 years to restore. Did 2 show seasons in it then sold it in 2004. Wonder if DYU474C is still out there? It was the second oldest Triumph known in paint code 56 (Royal Blue), the Earliest being a 65 Vitesse. That's a nice looking car, something to aim for! Although I think my other half wants me to get this one sorted in less than a decade though! Well it says 12/50 on the logbook and thats what I've been told by the seller, and from my research 63 was the first year of the 12/50 so it seemed plausable to me but if it is a 1200 it would explain the missing sunroof. I just assumed it had a roof swap to cure a leak at some point! Is there a way of telling from the chassis number? Think I'll be getting stuck into the brakes on saturday afternoon I would check that out to be honest. This may help: www.club.triumph.org.uk/prefix1.htmIt's the commission number you need to look at. 1200's start with a GA. The 12/50 starts with a GD but MORE IMPORTANTLY ends in RS which denotes sunroof. I believe the engine number also has a GD in it for the 12/50 and GA for the 1200 but I'm really digging deep in the memory now The 12/50 came standard with Disc front brakes, a warmer camshaft and a longer exhaust manifold. They had a 1 peice aluminium grille with no painted centre upright. It also had 12/50 badges on the rear wings. Even if they had been removed there would be evidence of 2 holes in each rear wing directly behind the chrome strip end. The badges (in red) are visible on my car. Heres a comparison between a 1200 and a 12/50 exhaust manifold. First up 1200 And heres a 12/50. Note the longer centre branch. Hope that helps. Not trying to diss anyones car here. Just point out you may not have what you thought you had
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2012 BMW 520d Touring MSport 2006 Golf GTI TSI Previous 1965 Triumph Herald 12/50 in Royal Blue 1989 BMW 325i Convertible (C2.7 powered)
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luckygti
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Mar 10, 2011 20:27:56 GMT
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Yep, a cool fleet. Do like the Bay, I have a T3 DoKa which is a work in prgress (Aren't they all?) and I hope it looks as good as yours when it's done. Love the Herald as well, lovely bit of olde English tin
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Mar 10, 2011 20:31:10 GMT
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Herald looks sweet! Wish mine had the early dash with the recessed switches. Well theres something I've just learnt! See its this kind of stuff I won't be able to get out the workshop manuals. Been lurking on your thread to get some idea of what I've got to look forward to. Is the lighter blue on your car Powder Blue? When we get round to painting ours its looks like we'll be going for powder blue and sebring white as I think this might be period correct, just need to find out where to mask the split off as I've seen a couple of variations. Out of interest would you reccomend joining club triumph or sports six? tbh, I'm not sure what colour mine is, it looks like powder blue to me, but a triumph expert told me it's "duck egg" blue. If your going for full two tone (as opposed to a solid colour with the stripe) then the current white/green split is at the correct places. I've only ever been with TSSC, but I've not had any problems with them, seem to get you cheaper insurance than CT though. Also your car isn't a 12/50, no 12/50s had handles on there bonnet, 12/50s have a different grill, a sunroof, and various other things your car doesn't.
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Last Edit: Mar 10, 2011 20:38:40 GMT by yantorsen
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b7
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Mar 10, 2011 20:57:51 GMT
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Well theres something I've just learnt! See its this kind of stuff I won't be able to get out the workshop manuals. Been lurking on your thread to get some idea of what I've got to look forward to. Is the lighter blue on your car Powder Blue? When we get round to painting ours its looks like we'll be going for powder blue and sebring white as I think this might be period correct, just need to find out where to mask the split off as I've seen a couple of variations. Out of interest would you reccomend joining club triumph or sports six? tbh, I'm not sure what colour mine is, it looks like powder blue to me, but a triumph expert told me it's "duck egg" blue. If your going for full two tone (as opposed to a solid colour with the stripe) then the current white/green split is at the correct places. I've only ever been with TSSC, but I've not had any problems with them, seem to get you cheaper insurance than CT though. Also your car isn't a 12/50, no 12/50s had handles on there bonnet, 12/50s have a different grill, a sunroof, and various other things your car doesn't. Being a '66 yantorsen, I'd say the blue on yours is Wedgewood blue. that colour was on the '65 colour chart having displaced the earlier Powder blue (which My old mums first 948 fibre dash herald was). I can't though recall the other shade on your car. Is it Gunmetal?
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2012 BMW 520d Touring MSport 2006 Golf GTI TSI Previous 1965 Triumph Herald 12/50 in Royal Blue 1989 BMW 325i Convertible (C2.7 powered)
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Mar 10, 2011 22:05:01 GMT
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That answers that one then, looks like its not just the name we need to change on the V5 then! Thanks for the info guys Looks like we'll be getting signed up with TSSC then, we've already got a load of their mags with the car from the early 90s so it might already be a vehicle known to them (although looking at its paperwork on its original numberplate which was transferred off a fair few years back )
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Mar 10, 2011 22:12:02 GMT
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I'd go on the commission number to make sure - over 40-odd years cars can have a lot of bits swapped over! Regardless of the model, it's a nice tidy car.
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Mar 10, 2011 22:53:33 GMT
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wedgewood blue sounds about right. not sure what the other colour is either, it looks like a dark blue to me, logbook just says grey/blue though.
tbh that herald looks less rusty than mine haha
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b7
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Yantorson, Have a look at the colour codes on the commission plate Wedgewood is code 26 I believe and gunmetal is 18. Although another colour they did was Slate paint code 68. Would be good to know. It's bugging me now.........
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2012 BMW 520d Touring MSport 2006 Golf GTI TSI Previous 1965 Triumph Herald 12/50 in Royal Blue 1989 BMW 325i Convertible (C2.7 powered)
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