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Jan 13, 2013 15:29:46 GMT
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Dear Retro Riders, I would like to introduce The project I am working on. I am trying to fit an Toyota Aygo engine (1KR-FE) including gearbox in a Fiat 126. I tilted the gearbox to get the drive shafts in front of the engine. My main goal is to keep the Fiat as 'original' looking as possible, maybe try to achieve a cleaner look. Piet  So I swapped this:  With this!  work in progress  |
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Jan 13, 2013 15:50:51 GMT
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Awesome!
How much does the Toyota lump weigh in comparison?
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Koos
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Jan 13, 2013 16:01:52 GMT
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Wikipedia says: The Toyota KR engine family is a straight-3 piston engine series, designed by Daihatsu, which is a subsidiary of Toyota. The 1KR series uses aluminium engine blocks and chain driven DOHC cylinder heads. It also uses multi-point fuel injection, and has 4 valves per cylinder with VVT-i.The engine is also exceptionally light with a 69KG weight with all ancillaries. This is due to the nature of the applications and weight of city cars. Which is about the same as me  (before christmas that is...  ) |
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Last Edit: Jan 13, 2013 16:05:27 GMT by fiataygo
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j4cko
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Jan 13, 2013 16:07:30 GMT
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Loving this, having had tow Fiat 500's and had the engines out a few times, and now having a Citroen C1 (Same as Aygo) I can totally see the point, the KR engine is a lovely little unit and makes decent power, it has three times the power of the 126 unit but itsnt peaky, noisy or in a high state of tune but is still pretty small, looks like it fits very nicely in there, it wont be a pain in the  like the 500 unit. How are you going to do the cooling, what suspension are you using and are you uprating the brakes ? |
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olig
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Jan 13, 2013 16:26:11 GMT
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I had one of these in my 107 and was fairly impressed and had planned to put one in my mini as its an ideal compact conversion.
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Siert
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Jan 13, 2013 16:47:34 GMT
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Goed idee!
Nice project!
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Jan 13, 2013 17:32:44 GMT
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I must respectfully inform you, that this is FUGGIN BRILLIANT!
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Jan 13, 2013 18:18:28 GMT
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Old Car. Modern power. Complete win! I like how this is staying with a small engine, true to the original. Respect for being restrained  This has potential to be a top daily : cool, reliable, frugal. Well done that man. I'm keen to see how this turns out. |
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luckygti
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Jan 13, 2013 18:26:04 GMT
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Very very cool, car looks the business already, with this engine you're onto a winner. Theres an article in PPC this month on turbocharging these units, very interesting stuff, and the Fiat is so much better looking than the Aygo  |
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Jan 13, 2013 19:17:09 GMT
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Rotrex make a supercharger kit for them....
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Jan 13, 2013 19:46:09 GMT
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Great project ! Ga 'm volgen Succes !
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Jan 13, 2013 20:38:03 GMT
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Many thanks to all of you!! I am struggling right now with the drive shafts. I have cv-joints to connect to the Fiat Hubs and I have the Toyota axles. I have been told that because of the metal alloy ( the 'metal mixture') it is not save to weld the Toyota axle....  There must be someone with good invaluable advice. Are there axles of older cars that can be welded which have the same diameter (21 mm) and number of splines (19) to fit the toyota cv joint....   |
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Onne
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Jan 14, 2013 11:10:43 GMT
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Cool! Good combo.
Maybe the best way is to get some driveshafts made up? I'm sure you can find someone there...
(and perhaps see if any of the Diahatsu ones are any good if the engine/box was designed by them?)
Ennnn WeLKOM!
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Jan 14, 2013 11:30:44 GMT
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You can also see if perhaps the 107/aygo/C1 have different drive shafts. I know they are supposed to be the same, but I seem to recall that toyota wasn't pleased with the french design and changed a few things. Sounds reasonable  Otherwise having driveshafts made is the easiest but also the most expensive solution, and I have no idea where to get this done in the Netherlands. Good luck and really looking forward to the end result! |
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miilor
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Jan 14, 2013 11:37:12 GMT
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in spain we put the fiat panda front hubs in seat 600, 126 must be the same
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Jan 14, 2013 12:49:43 GMT
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Awesome project. I swear I saw a thread about this car a couple of years ago?
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Seth
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Jan 14, 2013 13:13:16 GMT
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I'm just going to add my name to the list of those saying what an excellent plan this is!
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable. |
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stealthstylz
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Jan 14, 2013 19:55:40 GMT
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They are fantastic engine, I really enjoy driving our lass's best mates, the motor seems really punchy and they sound amazing.
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Jan 14, 2013 21:20:12 GMT
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What about a Yaris they use 19 spline
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Jan 14, 2013 21:44:14 GMT
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What a great combination, also love the 126 in white looks really clean and cool.
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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(before christmas that is... 
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There must be someone with good invaluable advice. Are there axles of older cars that can be welded which have the same diameter (21 mm) and number of splines (19) to fit the toyota cv joint....
