micrat
South East
Building a Kanjo styled Cinquecento :)
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Brigsy
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It's all about servicing I think - I had a DOHC Sierra for years than I ran from 82k to 168k without touching the engine other than for services. I spoke to a taxi driver the other day about mileages with modern diesels, which often seem to pack up terminally long before the old lower powered under-stressed/over engineered ones did - his answer to this is to drill a small hole in the turbo casing to reduce the boost pressure, and his 370,000 mile Skoda is still on all the original bits. Creating a boost leak by drilling a hole is a bad idea, that would make the turbo spin faster trying to make the boost it should shortening the life of it Mileage doesn't bother me whatsoever, condition is more important. I took my old r5gtt from 78k to 160k no probs, original untouched engine with good regular servicing. Engine is still going strong now in another car after the shell fell to bits with rust! I also had an xantia td, took it to 180k no probs, only had to do a couple of minor jobs i.e clutch. Bodywork was starting to fall apart though so it had to go. Engine lives on in another car.
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Both my old mercs had over 240k on them, the white one was a 3.5 v8 and the silver one a 3.0l straight 6, and both PETROL. Funnily enough i got rid of them both for the same reason, they both shat their gearboxes. Have some pics.
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High MileageDeleted
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When car shopping with a family member a couple of weeks back. I found my self having to totally change how i look at cars! One of the last things i look at is milage, but for her it was one of the first! I thought i'd proved my point when we looked at a tired 55,000 miles example, and a strong 92,000 mile example! But not so. I don't know where people get it from?
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People think that the lower mileage a vehicle has done, the closer to new it is. I can see their point, but it doesn't work like that. 40k of full throttle, change at/above the redline gear changes with no servicing and it'll be dead. It's all about the previous owner IMO.
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oldchap
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Has anyone had a really high mileage motorbike, my brother was a courier for a while, about 15 years ago, using a Honda 400cc v twin forget the model but it had about 150k on it without any problem. He thought nothing of covering 250 miles plus a day, even though the winter.
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what's that awful noise
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Dec 10, 2011 12:57:01 GMT
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Some of it has to do with modern metallurgy too- pop open a modern car engine that's done 100,000 miles with regular maintenance, then do the same to say, a 60's Austin A-series that has been used the same and maintained as per the manual.
I bet you the hone marks will still be visible on the modern and the A-series will be coming up for a rebore.
That goes for the rest of the hard working parts- that and galvanization of body panels has helped vehicles stay running for longer with a greater amount of neglect.
Reading the handbook for a car built in '48, it has a small section in the front titled "What to do when" or something similar- before you start the car every day for its first journey, every 300 miles, every 900 miles....
Who stops at the motorway services these days between London and Edinburgh to re-pack their wheel bearings with grease and adjust the ignition timing?
Things have come on a long way, even in our retros. The cutting edge of yesterday is in your girlfriend's runabout of tomorrow. Saying that, you don't want to see it last forever, so build in a bit of obsolescence and you'll be fine, based upon the casual user (read it in a previous post in this thread- the car is old, it isn't worth putting money into any more, some things have broken, the next big thing and I'm getting a new one, so I'm not spending any more on it) who in general will be their expected market- buy it, use it, throw it away.
Here there is a divide between those owners though- there's the new-car crowd, and then the "I'm proud to still be driving it" groups who will always get a wave and photos taken. I guess a few cars used to get lucky to break 100k, now it seems to be the norm. Drive it until the body falls off definitely applies here too though.
I say be proud to achieve high miles. You understand the machine you are operating. That's a valuable thing these days, if not under-rated.
--Phil
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oldchap
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Dec 10, 2011 13:20:36 GMT
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i agree, working in manufacturing for the last 30 years, I've seen the introduction of CNC machinery that is able to work to much closer tolerances and more consistant quality, the one off rogue engine, that was almost to blue print drawings, that just happened to be made by chance in the 60's and 70's when everything just came together in the machining process is now everyday and every engine, the stacking up of tolerances no longer occurs to the degree it once did. This makes the production of near as can be to the ideal design tolerance engines common. That and the use of fuel injection and ECU's where engines are always in tune and no excess fuel gets washed down the bore is the biggest contribution to incresed engine life.
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what's that awful noise
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OUTRUN
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Dec 10, 2011 15:16:53 GMT
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I drive a '98 106 D as my daily, and that has covered 108K and is barely ran in. I transplanted a 200K mile 2.3 LPT from a 940 into my Volvo 360, the 360 has only covered around 65K. I put another 5-6K trouble free, smile filled miles on that engine before taking the car off the road for restoration. The engine will be going back in.
My dad runs an '03 S 320 CDi with around 120K on it, bought on around 115K on my recommendation, and it is as new.
As said, servicing makes all the difference.
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I need your help to get back to the year 1985.
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skinnylew
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High Mileageskinnylew
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Dec 10, 2011 16:20:01 GMT
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These days it's more like drive until the multiplex electrics give up, than anything mechanical going or the body rusting!!!
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