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Jan 15, 2012 12:31:17 GMT
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iv'e been up the unit most evenings and weekends doing a few hours here and there and i'm still on the chassis modifications  . i'm actually also making the complete exhaust system which may be a strange thing to do at this stage. because everything is very tight i need to know how i'm going to fit it as well as making all the nessesary brackets and welding them to the chassis. the exhaust is starting of at 2.5 inch then splitting into two 2 inch pipes and twin silincers. most places there is only mm's of space to work with. more pictures soon |
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Jan 15, 2012 15:43:32 GMT
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Keep up the good work. Love the crane! We have one just like it at work
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a fair bit done but still a long way to go. iv'e added loads of metal to the chassis to beef it up and still want to add more. i have made the full exhaust system now, which you may think is a little premature, but i needed to know where to add brackets to hang the exhaust from and weld them to the chassis. i have also been rethinking the front suspension. i made nylon bushes but wasn't really happy with them. so went to Bronze instead. they are very easy to machine and can be made more accuratly. steel insert to replace the rubber bush    and the special shocks i had made to move the mounting point nearer to the wheel  i bolted the lower part of the suspension to the chassis and it moves very freely. i just need to weld the bush to the lower arm now i have worked out the position then it's onto the otherside. then rethink the upper wishone bushes to go to bronze on those as well.  |
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Hi Bozwell,
Can you tell me what length rear coil over is for S800?
I'm trying to find coil over suspension and I see a set in ebay.
Cheers
Atchi
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Building roof chopped, screen raked '68 Mini with G13B 1.3 16v Gti engine with LSD, Yamaha R1 carbs. As well as mk1 Suzuki Swift Gti AWD with a turbo.
Drives PHEV Outlander but wishing my mk1 Swift Gti or mk2 CRX Vt were still with me!
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Aug 10, 2012 22:18:33 GMT
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only just finished the chassis. it's been in and out a few times to make sure everything clears. now i can dry build with the engine in place to make the cooling pipes and work out oil cooler routing etc before finishing the bodywork  even has a full exhaust system  |
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 had a quick lesson on the English wheel and knocked this up as a mould.   not many updates as it's all small fiddly boring stuff. |
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small and fiddly maybe, but will most definitely be EPIC on the road! Keep up the great work!!
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Got a garage now but still no car. Plenty of ideas tho!
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That bonnet bulge looks spot on! Glad to see progress!
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morrx
Part of things
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G'day Interesting project. What sort of power are you expecting ? Good luck with the fiddly bits. Cheers Graham |
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1959 MORRIS MINOR 2 DOOR WITH MAZDA injected, 6 port, 13B
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i'm thinking around 200 horsepower. the engine as fitted to an S2000 is rated at 240 but i'm hoping the long inlet length will help more with mid-range torque. the plan is to have the bodywork finished within the next six months.  |
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benjy_b
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Hi,
I noticed you are running carbs. I read earlier that this is your preference.
Should you wish to use the standard engine management, it's very easy to run. I am in the process of wiring my F20 AE86 to standard Honda management. I'd be happy to help :-)
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2005 Subaru Forester 2.5XT
1999 BMW E36 318i Touring with OM605 Mercedes Engine
1996 Lada Riva with Honda S2000 Engine
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Feb 24, 2013 19:53:18 GMT
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a standard manifold will stick out of the bonnet. the manifold i made is very low. plus the exhaust manifold will ruin how a standard injection with lambda sensors will run. cheers anyway. funnily enough i was talking to someone the other day who built a 9000 rpm 1500 twin cam a series Mini engine and they can't get fuel injection to put out as much power as it does with carbs. well i haven't touched the bodywork as other commitments meant a delay. small update none the less. track rod ends are rare and usually very expencive and as mine are worn out i made rose jointed ones instead.   high tensile bolt up the middle to hold it all together |
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luckygti
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I need to try harder!
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Feb 26, 2013 17:40:15 GMT
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This car is so full of win, really good to see it back at the top of the page. Reckon it will sound amazing with the twin pipes!
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Feb 26, 2013 23:00:58 GMT
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This thing is brilliant. Will be a great fun little track car when done!
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Remade In Australia
thereimaginarium.com.au
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it floats   which means i can clean up the underneath  dash is now finished with electronic internals  i might get it finished one day  |
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79cord
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Nice to know it's still progressing.
That green paint hiding under the trims certainly would have been shocking.
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it used to be a hillclimb car. there was also green paint on the fibreglass front end. the previous owner has known the car since the 80's and didn't know it had been green at one point. apparently there are references to a green hillclimb S800 in the 70's but i haven't found any info yet. there is evidence of having a rollcage fitted at somepoint and a 90's valuation points it to being an ex hillclimb car turned back into a road car. scraping all the underseal off is a really boring job  |
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Jun 10, 2013 10:36:31 GMT
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funnily enough I was talking to someone the other day who built a 9000 rpm 1500 twin cam a series Mini engine and they can't get fuel injection to put out as much power as it does with carbs. It'll just be an issue with the design of their FI inlet vs the carb one, seen it many times. I fear even with the longer inlet you're probably not going to make as much midrange power as a stock motor does on carbs, as standard it can be pretty close to the knock limits where VTEC engages due to the compression ratio it's running, so obviously less precise control over the fuel and timing means you have to go richer and more retarded around that area, you'll also struggle to put in the jump in ignition timing that occurs on the wilder cams. If the standard management is easy to run I would just slap that on, even if the carbs do look prettier in the engine bay  |
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Jun 10, 2013 11:44:58 GMT
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"It'll just be an issue with the design of their FI inlet vs the carb one, seen it many times." it was just a change between throttle bodies and carbs which mount on the same inlet. as for going for standard fuel injection on the F20c in the S800. it wont fit. i have had to angle the inlet down which in itself will knock some horsepower off. the exhaust manifold is also a wierd design to fit into the small area left in the engine bay so that will dramatically affect power. i know from the off that it'll be way down on power BUT we will not know anything until it's up and running like where vtec crossover works best etc. we can all speculate what will and wont work and i don't mind input but i have done a lot of research on inlet and exhaust manifold design to know the only way to make it fit on a small budget is to make many compromises. in fact deciding on the S2000 engine is a compromise because there are very few RWD Honda engines to choose from and most FWD engines spin anticlockwise. there have been conversions to modify a B series engine to spin clockwise but i'm too far down fitting the S2000 engine to change now and it HAD to be a Honda engine. i'm keeping the S800 for life so i expect it'll get modified and changed over the years anyway |
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Jun 10, 2013 13:20:51 GMT
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Carbs with venturi in the inlet vs throttle bodies without - generally means they shouldn't be on the same inlet as it's not optimised for both  Might be worth at least running on a megajolt or similar ignition system in the future then if you have to stick with carbs. Just out of curiosity, what are you using to trigger the VTEC solenoid? |
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Last Edit: Jun 10, 2013 13:24:37 GMT by phillipm
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. i'm actually also making the complete exhaust system which may be a strange thing to do at this stage. because everything is very tight i need to know how i'm going to fit it as well as making all the nessesary brackets and welding them to the chassis.
