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I have a MK2 Escort and more recently a Mazda Eunos. The thought occured to me that the mazda power plant might make a good modern replacment for the ford crossflow. Iv'e not come accross this conversion before and was wondering if it has been done?
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rodney
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havent heard of it , but theres more bang for buck out there id say, you thinking of the 1600?,.
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I was just wondering if it had been done really. I know the zetec is often used in old fords but there are issues turning the transverse zetec to use inline whereas the mazda unit is an inline engine to start with. EG a water rail is needed with a zetec because the thermostat fouls the bulkhead when turned in line. This wouldnt be a problem with the mazda unit.
I know the mx5 engine is not the most powerfull out there it was just i thought that if it had been done someone on retro rides would have done it.
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been done to a Datsun but i don't know how similar it actually is  it does have a Ford English axle fitted with some trick bits inc LSD so it is quite tail happy. i didn't fit the engine and by all accounts it wasn't easy because the 1.8 VVT unit has an immobiliser that needs wiring in also. that said being the 1.8VVT it has 150bhp and does go quite well. |
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all the bits to fit zetecs into old rwd fords are readily available off the shelf, so the water rail issues etc aren't a problem. try retro ford.
if you just want a modern engine in your mk2 then go zetec. if you want something a bit different, the go mazda, but expect more trial and error/fabricating
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Mar 24, 2012 22:03:14 GMT
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Well yeah retro ford will happily relive me of £1500 for a fitting kit that still needs induction and cooling sorting. Its the easy way but expensive.
You can buy an MX5 MOT fail for £500 keep the engine and box and sell the rest in bits and probably get your £500 back.
Ok the fabrication ETC is probably beyond my skill level, but if engine swaps are your bread an butter i reckon this could be a good conversion.
Mazda lump has a rear bowl sump to suit escort crossmember but needs a hydro clutch so escort would need a bias box.
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Mar 24, 2012 22:18:32 GMT
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heard of Duratecs going into MX5's.
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Mar 24, 2012 22:53:00 GMT
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The mx5 lacks torque IMHO. In an Escort this would be even more noticeable.
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Koos
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Mar 25, 2012 11:13:23 GMT
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Lots of people fitting Duratecs into Escorts, its a light tough engine thats really easy to bring up to 190bhp, isnt that a Mazda engine?
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Mar 25, 2012 12:09:15 GMT
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MX5 engines take well to forced induction which could see you with lots of power, assuming you've got enough space.
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Mar 25, 2012 23:54:59 GMT
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Mx5 engines love forced induction, if you have the money!!
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Koos
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craig1010cc
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Mar 26, 2012 18:09:46 GMT
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Seth is running a MX5 lump in his herald, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in a escort, and it is a cracking engine and gearbox (if thirsty and a little underpowered for a J 16v lump). An easier swap to get the same sort of power and cost would be a sierra twincam engine with the fuel injection
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Mar 26, 2012 19:19:47 GMT
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Just been out in my Datsun 120y after its winter lay up. they weigh about the same as an Escort. with the vvt engine the thing just flies. its not easy to keep it at the 30 limit because the throttle is so sensative.
i actually think a turbo or supercharger will be less fun. quick yes but just not the same sort of fun. i would say another 20 bhp will be perfect for my set up for a good balance between handling and power. if i can worry Lotus Elises as it is around a track then i think that says it all ;D
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Mar 26, 2012 20:55:23 GMT
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Seth is running a MX5 lump in his herald, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in a escort, and it is a cracking engine and gearbox (if thirsty and a little underpowered for a J 16v lump). An easier swap to get the same sort of power and cost would be a sierra twincam engine with the fuel injection Iv'e heard about this but cant find a build thread. If there is one can someone post a link please. |
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Mar 26, 2012 20:56:29 GMT
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Just been out in my Datsun 120y after its winter lay up. they weigh about the same as an Escort. with the vvt engine the thing just flies. its not easy to keep it at the 30 limit because the throttle is so sensative. I actually think a turbo or supercharger will be less fun. quick yes but just not the same sort of fun. I would say another 20 bhp will be perfect for my set up for a good balance between handling and power. if I can worry Lotus Elises as it is around a track then I think that says it all ;D Sounds like FUN. ;D |
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