ZF 4HP22 (V8 LDV) shim/spacer query??

[Mystery Machine]

Not sure if anyone will be able to help me on this, but I'll ask anyway just in case someone does because it'll probably save me a few hours of trial & error (and head scratching)

I've just picked up a ZF 4HP22 4 speed auto box for the Land Rover. It's a 2WD one from an LDV V8 ambulance, so in theory it's the best one to get for my application.

The downside, when the seller removed it, he just threw all the 'bits' into a box and I was wondering if anyone here has any experience of which order they go in? The Sherpa/LDV V8 boxes have some spacers and shims in the bellhousing that are kind of important. I reckon I might be able to work out the order they go in, but it'll probably take quite a bit of trying out different combos....

Please let me know if you have any ideas on this?

Obviously there is the flex plate on the top left then working clockwise from there we have:

(1) Large adaptor plate/shim that looks like it bolts between the flex plate and torque converter

(2) THICK spacer with a small shaft on one side

(3) Small shim

(4) Spacer/adapter

(5) Medium shim



As you've probably guessed, the torque converter isn't shown, but if you do know which order these pieces fit I'll be your new best friend (and some free Area 52 stickers will be on their way to anyone who can answer this correctly)

Many thanks,

Bruce.

[Dez]

No. 4 goes on first I think bruce, to the crank, with No. 5 on top of it, then the 6x bolts in, threadlocked. No. 5 might go behind it though on these, that bit I cant remember. the witness marks from the bolt heads will tell you which goes on last though.

then its the flexplate.
then it should be 2,. the cut in recess is to act as a spigot for the torque converter- they shouldnt centre solely on the bolts, you push it up on the spigot and then tighten the bolts, but i guess you already know that.
then 1. the 4 holes in the flexplate are to access the torque converter bolts. then 5. is last, it should have witness marks for the bolt heads to confirm this.

[Mystery Machine]

Thanks Dez, that's AWSOME! (and will probably save me many hours messing around!)

I posted the question on the V8 Forum too, which is where I managed to source the gearbox, and got this respose which is similar to yours. I'm guessing you mean 3&4 go on first because you later mention number 5 going on last. That confused me a bit....

Have a look at this comment and let me know if he's saying the same thing?

"In this order 3 then 4 with the correct small cap head bolts, then flex plate- 2- 1-5 have some long 3/8? bolts going through them Smile john"

Thanks again Dude. Will probably be giving you a call tomorrow sometime. I'm determined to get the Land Rover to Wheels Day. ;D

[Dez]

yeah thats it. substute the first two times I said 5 for 3, I went the wrong way in the pic

[Mystery Machine]

^ PMSL ^ So appropriate....so funny.

I'll give you a call once I've got it all together tomorrow. Thanks again Dude.

[ChasR]

It may not be of much use but the Stag setup looks vaguely similar when using that gearbox (but of the Jag/BMW derivatives) with the spacers etc.

I have a PDF I can send you of how my conversion was undertaken if you wish.