1995 Range Rover P38 4.6 HSE - Cool Running

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George - Looks great - personally I would stick with the original style bumpers and hunt out a decent used one or repair that front corner on the one that you have (I have repaired worse) - would you follow the original profiles if you had alloy ones made up and would you leave then has an alloy finish rather than painted if you did ? - Personally I just think that it may look a bit 'Jeepney' if you did

(P38 are now starting to become sought after in the UK with low mileage ones fetching decent money all of a sudden)

[village]

What do you mean "repair the front bumper"? It's got gaffa tape on it, it's repaired.......

[georgeb]

Jul 18, 2017 8:22:04 GMT @grumpynorthener said:

George - Looks great - personally I would stick with the original style bumpers and hunt out a decent used one or repair that front corner on the one that you have (I have repaired worse) - would you follow the original profiles if you had alloy ones made up and would you leave then has an alloy finish rather than painted if you did ? - Personally I just think that it may look a bit 'Jeepney' if you did

(P38 are now starting to become sought after in the UK with low mileage ones fetching decent money all of a sudden)

Any I had made would need to follow the current profile as closely as possible. I want to be able to fit the existing skirt to it as without, she'll look like a big lass coming out the loo with the back of her frock in her panties! 😂

I've sourced a pair here but he wants $1,500 and the chances are they will be as brittle as the ones I've got. They are available new from the UK at $1,300 but with shipping and the dreaded duty they'll probably come in at almost double.

I have got glass, resin and epoxy but both front and back are now so delicate, if I can get replacements made, that's my favourite.

I've been hit four times now, all motorbikes or sidecars and that's not going to stop any time soon. 😊

As to value, yes good ones are on the up but there are still some serious bargains to be had. On another forum, a guy has just paid less than 700 quid with faults that were either non-existent, easy fixes or a matter of hooking up to his Nanocom to clear them. Now it's ready for MOT in less than a week! Mind, he does know what he's doing when it comes to the '38.

[Smiler]

Jul 16, 2017 10:27:58 GMT georgeb said:

Smiler on here is a good example of how it should be done. Ignores the rumours, takes the plunge and gets properly stuck in to sort stuff, learning all the time. As we all do (I hope).

Sir, you are too kind. It was reading your thread on here and gaining inside actual owner knowledge from Marty on the other site that convinced me to pull up my britches and go for it. I have to say that I haven't looked back since (no point, it's a diesel, can't see anything for all the smoke).

I notice you didn't include any shots of the interior plastics...

[georgeb]

Jul 18, 2017 19:28:33 GMT Smiler said:

Sir, you are too kind. It was reading your thread on here and gaining inside actual owner knowledge from Marty on the other site that convinced me to pull up my britches and go for it. I have to say that I haven't looked back since (no point, it's a diesel, can't see anything for all the smoke).

I notice you didn't include any shots of the interior plastics...

Glad to see I've played a part, albeit small, in somebody's downfall!

You will note I make no snide Derv based comments either. Just glad I don't own one.

Interior plastics? No, like an aging film star, she only wants her public to see the good bits. You wouldn't want to see Elizabeth Taylor's hysterectomy scar, now would you?

But just for you, a missing bit...

[Smiler]

Ah, yes, I've seen enough.

And you can shoulder more blame than just a 'small part' in my pending downfall...

[georgeb]

Jul 19, 2017 9:12:50 GMT Smiler said:

And you can shoulder more blame than just a 'small part' in my pending downfall...

Sorry!



Aren't P38's ungrateful pigs?

I do all that lovely refurbishment on her braking system so what does she do by way of thanks? She deliberately loosens her sump plug to deposit 20-50 all over my garage floor!

How? No idea. I've never yet had a sump plug come loose and it's been a while since the last oil change but I got 90^o on it with a spanner. New copper washer last time as well. Maybe I should treat her rough?

Anyway, she's all oil-tight again (amazingly for a Land Rover product).

Just going to give the brakes a final bleed tomorrow, as she's dragging the fronts a bit. It's so small as to be hardly noticeable and only for a few seconds after brake application, but it's there.

[daslandroverman]

I will see your sump plug and raise you a cylinder head bolt.
This was a 4 litre Disco 2 with 130k on it, engine had only ever seen regular servicing up until this point.

Never heard of another.

Reminds me of a mate and his old Dodge 50 truck.
60 miles or so after an oil change the light came on whilst going down the road.
Pulled over, and saw a trail of oil on the road.
Followed the trail back and found the sump plug in the gutter. This was refitted to the engine, and a walk half a mile the other way saw him armed with a couple of gallons of oil from a garage, filled up and away again.

[georgeb]

I'll keep an eye on my cylinder heads now!

Madam, a Filipina, blames ghosts.

She could have a point.

[paul99]

Jul 24, 2017 2:14:38 GMT georgeb said:

Aren't P38's ungrateful pigs?

I do all that lovely refurbishment on her braking system so what does she do by way of thanks? She deliberately loosens her sump plug to deposit 20-50 all over my garage floor!

How? No idea. I've never yet had a sump plug come loose and it's been a while since the last oil change but I got 90^o on it with a spanner. New copper washer last time as well. Maybe I should treat her rough?

One of the locals fancied a drink?

[georgeb]

Jul 24, 2017 8:36:09 GMT paul99 said:

One of the locals fancied a drink?

Given that a litre of oil is considerably more expensive than a litre of beer, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility I suppose.

Now, where were we? Oh aye, binding brakes.

Soo, before I set about with the faff waking up my little bottle opener to help with bleeding, I decided to have a look at the pedal. As is fairly standard, there is a shaft out the back of the modulator with a fork that engages the pedal arm, the whole caboodle being held by a spring clip that sits over a dowel on the arm.

Only it didn't, and had somehow popped loose. Therefore when you took your foot off the brake, the modulator shaft wasn't being pulled back against the spring and just extended again at it's own pace. Hence the momentarily dragging of the brakes until the shaft came to rest. Reattached it all and with a pair of pliers applied some crimping pressure to the fork and clip, and all seems to be fine. Shaft now pulls back with the pedal and the brakes release immediately.

Lovely, and free as well!

Oil and filter change next week.

[varelse]

Got to like a simple fix.

[georgeb]

Jul 31, 2017 0:43:52 GMT varelse said:

Got to like a simple fix.

And on a '38, they're few and far between. Although saying that, we've cured a cam sensor fault, oil leak and brakes for free just recently. Long may it continue!

I may have done another as well, but not sure yet. There's a section of road near me that sets a rattle off when I drive down it. I've never been able to place it as coming from inside, so today, while doing other bits, I looked outside-ish.

Under the bonnet is a box containing the EAS kit and tapping around the lid made a remarkably similar noise. Casting around, I found some spare washer hose, cut a slice in it and made a seal around three sides.

Has it worked? No idea as I can't do a test drive, because it's Monday!

I hate Mondays.😣

[georgeb]

Hammered* along Taft Avenue and silence 😊

*Hammered may be an exaggerated term. Hit 30kph anyway.

[georgeb]

Oil change I believe.

I popped out this morning to get some spices to knock up a Tandoori Butter Chicken as promised to the Bottle Opener and, at the same time, pick up some tap washers.

Oops, let me go back a bit. First I had to produce an letter of authority to allow Kuya John, Madam's driver to renew her driving license. That took two hours. Not because I'm a slow typer but because despite imploring people not to, someone insists on randomly unplugging my printer. It obviously objected to this and was showing more faults than a knackered P38.

Anyway, letter done it was off to Robinsons in Ermita to carry out the aforementioned tasks.

Let's skip over the fact that it was easier to buy a tap than a washer and move on to the fact that that the hardware shop had my preferred oil on special offer.

So I thought, well I've got filters and a garage, let's get on with it. I even bought a placcy container to drain into. I couldn't get away with using her pan twice!

Anyway off with the plug, actually placing the container correctly and out with the old.

Then came the filter. Now, ever since I was knee high to a grasshopper, I was taught hand-tight, right? This must have been tightened by the Godzilla look-alike that works down the We Changee Oil 2 place. 2 because it's not the usual one I've used.

Never, in 44 years of changing filters have I had to muller one this badly.

The filter wrench wouldn't touch it, even driving a screwdriver through it did sweet FA. Eventually I got it flat enough to get a large water pump spanner on it and, with a nasty pop from a shoulder muscle, it finally came free.

Two hours for a twenty minute job!

Just got it buttoned up in time for the school run.

Got to admit she sounds a lot happier now we've got rid of the last of the dodgy Halvoline they used.

Now I hurt and am having a recuperating beer!

Cor blimey, that went on a bit, didn't it? 😊

[jamesd1972]

Yep.

[varelse]

I haven't changed the filter on the Cressida since I first got her. Since then she's done a head gasket, shredded some cam bearings and cooked some oil.
Why, you ask?

Because the damn thing is welded on! Who puts an oil filter directly under an exhaust manifold with a heat shield that directs heat ON to it??
Another 3000km and I'll do the oil again, so I'll take it down the workshop and get some meatier tools on it. I broke my filter wrench.

[jamesd1972]

Aug 2, 2017 10:52:46 GMT jamesd1972 said:

Yep.

Sorry about the glib reply- couldn't resist.
Hand tight with a smear of fresh oil, part filled with oil if possible (especially on scooby-dos). It's not hard is it ?
Mechanics 101?
Feel your pain there are far too many people out there who do a cack job and don't have to suffer the consequences - gits.
Anyway hope the beer has helped, it could be worse at least you could get to the filter to abuse it. Had an MX5 (full Mazda history no less) where I had to buy a chain wrench and remove chunks of engine to get it off. Once you have breached the hull there is no turning back either....

[georgeb]

Aug 2, 2017 11:01:26 GMT varelse said:

I haven't changed the filter on the Cressida since I first got her. Since then she's done a head gasket, shredded some cam bearings and cooked some oil.
Why, you ask?

Because the damn thing is welded on! Who puts an oil filter directly under an exhaust manifold with a heat shield that directs heat ON to it??
Another 3000km and I'll do the oil again, so I'll take it down the workshop and get some meatier tools on it. I broke my filter wrench.

All designers and accountants who work in the motor industry should have one month a year where they are forced to work on the vehicles for which they had responsibility, whilst a crowd of people stand behind them shouting, "Now do you think that was a good idea!"

Aug 2, 2017 13:10:25 GMT jamesd1972 said:

Aug 2, 2017 10:52:46 GMT jamesd1972 said:

Yep.

Sorry about the glib reply- couldn't resist.
Hand tight with a smear of fresh oil, part filled with oil if possible (especially on scooby-dos). It's not hard is it ?
Mechanics 101?
Feel your pain there are far too many people out there who do a cack job and don't have to suffer the consequences - gits.
Anyway hope the beer has helped, it could be worse at least you could get to the filter to abuse it. Had an MX5 (full Mazda history no less) where I had to buy a chain wrench and remove chunks of engine to get it off. Once you have breached the hull there is no turning back either....

Glibness happily accepted!

Yep, and I had my part filled and seal-smeared one ready to go on. For two bloody hours!

The beer did help but numerous steering arms and shockers didn't.

Anyway, read on.

[georgeb]

I took my Little Darling to her place of learning this morning and noticed the brake warning light was reluctant to go out. Hmm, not good. So before I marinated the chicken for her requested dinner, I thought I'd have a look.

Cast your minds back to the last time I bled the brakes, I'd managed to get 4L of DOT 4 fluid. It wasn't really enough and I've never been 100% happy. Anyway, I thought I'd crack the high pressure nipples on the modulator and see if I could get any more air out, as this seems to be where it likes to congregate.

I depressurised the system by pumping the pedal 30 times, cracked open the nipple then hooked up a bleed tube. Switching on the ignition brought the ABS pump into life and after it had stopped (around 15-20 seconds) I hit the pedal and was rewarded with a satisfying belch of bubbles. Hit again and mysteriously the pump stopped. I would have expected it to run again for at least for a few seconds. Time to investigate further.

Bloody relay was dropping out wasn't it? It'd pull in for a few seconds then lose interest, knocking the pump out. THAT's why the light was staying on. The pump was only intermittently operating. Fortunately I had a new relay so that was popped in and all fine again.

Couldn't get any more air out either. Just fluid.

I've got 6L of DOT 4 coming this weekend (amazingly on 50% off special offer) so there'll be a full and proper bleed coming up next.