randywanger_
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Feb 22, 2015 20:29:17 GMT
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Small update: The engine is apart and I finally know what I'm working with and more importantly where to go from here. Most components look reusable, the cam will have to be changed, I'm going for bigger exhaust valves (think mine were 35mm and we're going to push it to 37mm) and then some porting. Bottom end looked in good shape, no signs of overheating, crank is fine, rods look new. The block and the pistons have been getting a bit too close for comfort, not sure why, either the machining wasn't correct, the pistons are cheap and have expanded or some other reason but there is definitely signs on wear. I'm pretty sure I can get away with it though, light hone, new rings and run it how it is. Looking for input and opinions on this, it may seem like a false economy but finding an L18 block in the UK will be next to impossible.        |
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Feb 22, 2015 21:21:55 GMT
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This is stunning.
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1984 GZ10 Soarer
1987 GX71 Limited - sold
1983 Celica Supra
1989 GT4 - sold
1989 Range Rover
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randywanger_
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Feb 27, 2015 13:26:15 GMT
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Small update if anyone is still reading.
The current block and pistons will be turned into garage art/furniture and a new one is being sourced. New forged pistons, pins, rings etc will be purchased once the replacement block is found and bored out.
Piston rings on 2 and 3 were melted into the pistons. Looks like it got very hot and/or detonated or was poorly put together in the first place or a combination of everything. I now know why the car was parked up.
Onwards and upwards, shame I'm not using the original block, but it'll be much better than before and the builder can build exactly what I want.
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randywanger_
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Feb 27, 2015 13:29:26 GMT
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Not the best picture, but I'm paying the guy to build the engine, not to take pictures.  |
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bstardchild
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Feb 27, 2015 13:47:32 GMT
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I got forged pistons made by JE for around £100 each a few years back - surely you could bore the existing block and re-use or if it's too bad to bore - sleeve it??
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randywanger_
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Feb 27, 2015 14:00:40 GMT
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The existing block is bored out to 89mm which is the absolute maximum, most people have said not to go over 88.5 as you're dangerously close to the water ways.
Bore and sleeve would be an option, but it'll be more expensive than finding a replacement.
JE were recommended to me, I think that's the builders preferred supplier.
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Feb 27, 2015 14:14:58 GMT
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The existing block is bored out to 89mm which is the absolute maximum, most people have said not to go over 88.5 as you're dangerously close to the water ways. Bore and sleeve would be an option, but it'll be more expensive than finding a replacement. JE were recommended to me, I think that's the builders preferred supplier. Want me to have a look for an L18 short block over here? What engine block code do you need? |
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randywanger_
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Feb 27, 2015 17:37:39 GMT
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I think my engine builder has found one. But if you can find an L18 (no idea what block code it is other than that) then please let me know how much it's likely to be. Thank you.
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smeden
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Feb 28, 2015 13:54:02 GMT
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It's so much "Because Race car" You got to love that! I like this car! And I love that you try to keep it the way it is!
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randywanger_
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Feb 28, 2015 15:03:42 GMT
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It's so much "Because Race car" You got to love that! I like this car! And I love that you try to keep it the way it is! Thank you very much  |
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Carter
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I take it you have tried Datman for an L18 block?
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randywanger_
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I take it you have tried Datman for an L18 block? Yeah I spoke to Will the day after he sold his L18  He sold it to a guy local to me who also have a 510 race car so I know it's going to good use. I'm sorted now though anyway, got one being delivered next week. |
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Carter
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Ah, what are the chances!? Anyway, sounds like it's all good, excellence!
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I'm excited just reading through this thread and seeing your project all come together. To have such a great looking car with that history is awesome.
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Looked good in the flesh, with the brief look I had when dropping the engine off as had my daughter sleeping in the car. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with it.
Also gone me a bit inspired to crack back on with the wagon, took the tarp off it first time in about a year soon as I got back.
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Shame you got to use a different block,but nevermind. itll be great with a fresh motor. Ive been running in the celica today. I'm glad the bonnet opens from the front,otherwise id be huntiing a screen now :-0
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randywanger_
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Looked good in the flesh, with the brief look I had when dropping the engine off as had my daughter sleeping in the car. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with it. Also gone me a bit inspired to crack back on with the wagon, took the tarp off it first time in about a year soon as I got back. It's not too bad really considering how long it was left unloved, un covered in Japan for. It does look a lot better when all the parts are on and it's out in the sun light. Thanks again for dropping the engine off, really appreciate it. Get the wagon out and give it some love! Shame you got to use a different block,but nevermind. itll be great with a fresh motor. Ive been running in the celica today. I'm glad the bonnet opens from the front,otherwise id be huntiing a screen now :-0 It is a shame I agree, I wanted it to be all original, I'm still thinking to get the original block re sleeved and build up that motor at a later stage, or turn it into a table? What happened to yours then, just forget to latch it down? |
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randywanger_
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Mar 15, 2015 21:59:54 GMT
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I managed to get a couple hours in today, the plan was to remove the battery tray and start to prep the engine bay for the new engine.  Getting the car back on the ground took a little longer than expected, but eventually I got it outside.  Attacked it with a pressure washer, most of the black paint came off revealing the lovely, original off white colour.  One day when I get all the body work sorted it'll return to that colour.  I got to use my favourite toys, angle grinder, drill and a hammer      And then quickly threw some zink primer down  Gave it a wash and pushed it back away  Paint needs taking back, holes need welding up and the whole thing covering in POR15 and then painting but that'll have to wait until it gets warmer |
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fer4l
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Mar 22, 2015 20:39:59 GMT
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It's definitely warmer tonight than it was today! ? |
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randywanger_
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Mar 23, 2015 13:51:23 GMT
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It's definitely warmer tonight than it was today! ? Still, no progress. Too many life things are in the way at present. Slow and steady... |
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He sold it to a guy local to me who also have a 510 race car so I know it's going to good use. I'm sorted now though anyway, got one being delivered next week.
