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Mar 15, 2015 20:57:33 GMT
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Mar 15, 2015 21:05:01 GMT
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Blooming wonderfull news. I Have the pleasure of delivering on the windy roads of wiltshire and hampshire, And am forever trying to overtake trucks doing 40mph, Then they hit a hill without a runup where they slow to 25mph...
More like this please Mr Government...
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Mar 15, 2015 21:11:36 GMT
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They probably don't want to shout too loud about it. Keep it under the radar of the road safety lobby.....
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Rich G
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Mar 15, 2015 21:22:00 GMT
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BRAKE will go apoplectic - won't someone think of the bunnie-wunnies?!
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`state
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Mar 15, 2015 21:32:12 GMT
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I think its a bad move tbh. Its just 10mph faster they`re gonna hit you when the driver drops his fork he`s been eating his full english in a try with while reading the sport.
Some of the driving standards i see while on the A1079 and especially the A15 to Lincoln is shocking so raising the limit is only going to make the outcome of future accidents even worst.
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Look at all the plastic people who live without a care.Try to sit with me around my table,but never bring a chair.
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GT4ME
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Mar 15, 2015 21:38:28 GMT
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The dual carriageway 60mph sounds very sensible anyway.
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Mar 15, 2015 22:00:18 GMT
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I think its a bad move tbh. Its just 10mph faster they`re gonna hit you when the driver drops his fork he`s been eating his full english in a try with while reading the sport. Some of the driving standards i see while on the A1079 and especially the A15 to Lincoln is shocking so raising the limit is only going to make the outcome of future accidents even worst. And driving my lorry have you any idea the number of car drivers i've seen texting while bombing past at 80 + ? For years lorrys speeding on a roads have been an easy target for the police cameras, i was flashed doing 49 years ago, and a mate was flashed doing 47, how do the cameras know it's a lorry and not a car ?, weight sensors before the camera, if you have ever noticed two black wires on the road before the camera that's the weight sensor. I'm off the road now anyway, wouldn't care if i never drove a wagon again, more hassle and stress than it's worth. |
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`state
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Mar 15, 2015 22:12:32 GMT
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Totally agree with you about car drivers texting. As if it cant wait 5 mins til you stop. But then i think cars these days are just filled with un-needed technology thats distracting the driver. Sat navs plonked on the windscreen right in front of the driver is another pet hate of mine.
I'm not saying that its only lorry drivers that drive poorly,as most don't and are very good at the job. I just think that accidents will be alot worst with a heavy lorry doing 10mph more. How many times have we all seen a hgv on a dual carriage or motorway change lanes right into the path of a overtaking car? That 10mph might have made the difference of either driver seeing the other.
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Look at all the plastic people who live without a care.Try to sit with me around my table,but never bring a chair.
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Mar 15, 2015 23:25:21 GMT
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I think 40 to 50 on single carriageways is a good idea, but 50 to 60 on DCs less so- Trucks have an electronic limiter to 56 mph (90kph), so if they are all travelling at near enough 56, then we will end up with "elephant races" going on for miles and slowing down other traffic (cars). Of course many lorries travel at 56 on DCs now, they are speeding, but at least get round those travelling at 50 swiftly and move back over. Just my 2p worth. ...I'm a lorry driver btw... have some cool trucks     |
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vertex
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Kwkmanta.,
On the subject of tw#t navs (I have one) stuck all over peoples windscreens a officer told me when vosa pulled me they have to be right in the corner of the front screen,
Anywhere else & they can do you, as they are a visual hazard.
I passed my class 1 20yrs ago & remember when you used to see drivers with the little triangular flaglets & the small thin things (forgot there name)
in a row right in the centre of the screen
That had the make of wagon on...
On the speed subject I was done yrs & yrs ago on what I thought was a dual carriageway (2lanes) 50 speed limit,
off m6 j19 towards gadbrook Northwich (oop norf) had been doing 50 for a long while along with a lot of other hgv drivers
10 mins in court found out they had had numerous drivers in regarding the same road,they had dropped it to 40 for hgv,s reason being there wasn't a solid fixed central barrier so wasn't classed as a dual carriageway even though cars where doing 70+ after passing the camera..
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Great, now maybe I won't get stuck behind a row of them all doing 30mph down the single-carriageway a1 at 5am...
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I can see plusses and minuses to this. On the upside it could improve the general flow of traffic on roads. on the other hand higher speeds mean longer stopping distances. What is the difference in braking distance for a lorry dong 60mph compared to one doing 50? And if the limit is increased won't that just mean the same "elephant races" (like it  at a slightly higher speed? |
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Dez
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Mar 16, 2015 10:58:42 GMT
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i don't see the issue. the majority of lorry drivers are better trained and more experienced than the vast majority of car drivers, plus their braking systems are far more efficient. the biggest factor to influence stopping distance would still be reaction time.
the lorries round here arent really the issue anyways. yeah they were all limited to 40mph on the profusion of single carriageway A roads in this area, and tbh if a lorry meets a lorry, it is tight to pass. but theyd all get stuck behind some doddery old codger doing 30-35mph in a national anyway. they're the people who really case the problems.
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taurus
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Mar 16, 2015 12:54:34 GMT
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I spend a lot of time towing, so it's 50mph on a SC and 60mph on a DC - very rarely have I ever been held up by a truck, they are usually going at the same speed or faster than me. Most of the time I try not to hold them up because they've got a schedule to keep.
tbh most truck drivers are very good, when I cycled Land's End to John O'Groats a few years back they were very courteous.
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Mar 16, 2015 18:34:45 GMT
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tbh most truck drivers are very good, when I cycled Land's End to John O'Groats a few years back they were very courteous. A lot of truck driver have riden a bike on the road (i have) so know what it's like, i've had on a couple of occasions cyclists pull in to let me past when they see it's a 44 ton lorry behind, not necessary but very appreciated, a wave and friendly toot of the horn made their day. Thing is i cant see it making a huge difference, most wagons have been sitting at 50 on A roads and at 56 on dual carriageways for years (though illegally), just means they will be legal now. |
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Mar 16, 2015 18:46:09 GMT
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Another HGV driver here.
Raising the single carriage limit is better,as car drivers seem to be able sit behind something travelling at 50mph, whereas at 40 they try all their hardest to get past, even if its not safe to do so... Usually cutting right in front of the truck forcing the driver to hit the brakes ......
The roads round here in north lincs are terrible for it.
As for dual carriageways, most wagons do 56 down the A180 anyway.
And being limited to 56 means 60 is a pipedream.......
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Mar 16, 2015 19:00:53 GMT
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... most wagons have been sitting at 50 on A roads and at 56 on dual carriageways for years (though illegally), just means they will be legal now. Our main trunk route in Northumberland is the A1 (mainly SC some DC sections), Years ago wagons did as you say then our beloved bobbies started handing out tickets to HGVs doing over 40 so most now stick to the limits (and do their best to cope with frustrated car drivers attempting dangerous overtakes)  |
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Mar 16, 2015 20:25:11 GMT
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It'll be carnage on the A14 with all the European lorry drivers, they don't seem to be as highly trained as British drivers.
Local plod now hunt them in an umarked tractor unit on the A14, it was on the local news. Most were stopped for watching films on laptops on the dashboard, scary!
The problem's road capacity, not speed. The A14 is mostly 2 x 2 lanes so the lorries constantly govern the speed. Both the A14 and the A12 through Essex should have been upgraded to motorway years ago seeing as they service two huge container ports.
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omega
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Mar 16, 2015 20:48:47 GMT
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iam sure this was ment to come in in January but was changed to april for some reason
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Mar 16, 2015 22:25:46 GMT
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Another HGV driver here. Raising the single carriage limit is better,as car drivers seem to be able sit behind something travelling at 50mph, whereas at 40 they try all their hardest to get past, even if its not safe to do so... Usually cutting right in front of the truck forcing the driver to hit the brakes ...... The roads round here in north lincs are terrible for it. As for dual carriageways, most wagons do 56 down the A180 anyway. And being limited to 56 means 60 is a pipedream....... I was only saying the other day as we struggled down the A15 and towards Kings Lynn, if only they raised the limit to 50 it would be bearable. I was sure they would never do it though |
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at a slightly higher speed?
